Late model cruisers diff housing problems

Toyota and Nissan boast that use Australia as their testing ground, the harshest continent on the planet.

If this is so, where are the hundreds of complaints from owners on this site?
No landslide of complaints on US sites either.

With respect I reckon this is another case of trying to set a hare running.

On the other hand this author wrote a book on lemons and Lemon Laws in the US and specifically mentions the Hummer:

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I'd never heard of the problem either but knowing the gent involved it wouldn't be BS. Only happens when vehicle used constantly on rough roads apparently which wouldn't happen to the vast majority of owners.
Yes I've seen the article on hummers before, that is what happens when you take a vehicle designed for military use and tart it up with all the crap that the bods that can afford to buy one want. Most of the probs relate to the crap (read frills) fitted not the basic vehicle.
A H2 is a totaly different vehicle built on what is basically a Chev truck running gear.

Where a person sledges a good product without first hand evidence, you really have to question why.

Especially when the heading is so inflammatory.

It is astounding how many non-Toyota owners go out of their way to issue dire warnings against the market leader on behalf of Cruiser owners.

Yet the owners are still smiling.

What is Happening? Let's take and example from elsewhere in life:

I just had a tenant damage a commercial Maytag washing machine. These things are built like concrete mixers, but it appears that the tenant has a habit of washing King size doonas and throw rugs.

I suppose the owner of a competitor's product could take great delight in the damaged washer and gleefully report "Drive problems in Maytag Washers".

He could even follow up and say that a Maytag should cope with anything washable - washing being the designed purpose.

But the reality is that one machine failed through operator misuse.

I suspect that is the case with some of the gossip doing the rounds on popular fourbys.

EV700

Hi Peter
While having the GU serviced in Gympie two months ago, noticed the storeroom with about 20 diffs and asked what they were for. Was told that they were for the 79 series and that the farmers in the area were breaking them and they were the replacments covered under warrantee.
Ray
Allvehicles seem to have some problem, but mainly caused by overloading or abuse.

Actually until 3 years ago I'd owned 6 Landcruisers since 1974, all used privately for extended travelling outback, never abused, probably occasionally overloaded especially on long trips like CSR, Anne Beadell etc.
I'd never broken anything till the last 1HZ powered troopy which considering it led a very sheltered life (mostly in the garage waiting for the next weekend/holiday trip).
It required a complete trans rebuild at 100k, a regular diet of pinion bearings, all wheel bearings, springs, clutch hydraulics, thermo fan, power steering pump, water pump, radiator several times to list the major items all at less than 140k when we sold it.
I'd hate to have to actually use a late model vehicle commercially and expect to be able to keep it more than a few years.
Severely dissollusioned with the way manufacturers are making vehicles for road use rather than what they are supposed to be used for I bought the Humvee to use as a basis for a touring vehicle, far simpler, cheaper to service and maintain, modify to suit my needs and with a GVM that I'm very unlikely to exceed even on extended outback trips.
I would never sling off at anyone's choice of vehicle, we all buy what we can afford at a level that suits our individual needs. My sole reason was to ascertain whether in fact there was a problem with the vehicles in question, mainly for another friend who is computer illiterate and considering purchasing a retirement vehicle but wanted to know any possible pitfalls.
Subsequent posts may well bring further evidence either way.

You are correct at least with the front diff housing. as far as I can tell it is not as larger problem as having pallets of busted ones out the back. I had a small weep in the front housing of a 79 ute which was identified as a crack and was replaced out of warranty due to a few of them going. It should be noted this vehicle was a total bushbasher and had done more hard miles off track than alot would do on track

What does Lawsy say about yotas?? Something like "can't kill em with a stick".hehehehe....what he doesn't mention is that STONES aren't quite so obliging......like Truckster says about the 3L Patrol.....

I WANT ONE...... hahahaha

Not in this lifetime sonny jim!!!

If you see how most of these outback cars get driven , its hard to see what car would last . if we think that any manufacturer builds a car to exede it's warranty time is a fool in my eyes . All new car are not built for off road work , if they were , we wouldnt be driving overloaded vehicles ect. We are all caught between a rock and a hard place , we cant buy old , due to to much mantinance and if we buy new , it has to be withing the warranty period.

Right ho I have just been over to the LV workshop who do nothing but look after the fleet of 30+ tojo lvs. Well the first thing is there was NO pallets of busted diffs anywhere and on questioning he had seen some busted diff housings but not like you are talking more around where the shockers and swaybar connect. This could have as much to do with the ultra corrosive environment as well as the constant punishment. He also had not seen anything out of the ordinarry as far as busted front diffs. In his words just general wear and tear for vehicles used in these conditions and under normal conditions they have no worries oh and the water getting into the diffs doesnt help either.
These vehicles are flogged underground permantly in low 4 24/7 and never see the bitumen so on the basis of that I would say Myth Busted

Colleague of mine has a very much modified 80 series, on our way to the CSR he had his front diff welded up adjacent to the weld on the off side control arm bracket, a hairline crack. Had it rewelded as we passed through Alice Springs again.
After the CSR & heading home via The Simpson the repaired area failed dramatically, the diff actually peeled open and you could see the driveshaft, the gap was in the order of 10-15mm and followed the bracket almost to the bottom of the housing.
In Birdsville it was stripped down and the area rewelded again to get him home.
The mechanic in the Shell kept a spare front housing for the 79 series as he had replaced cracked & broken ones regularly, mainly local farmers & ringers but had done a few tourists as well.
Diagnosis of the 80's dilema?
Overloaded, drove it like he stole it, suspension too harsh, shocks set too firm and additional stresses placed on the housing by raising the vehicle, he did try to offset this by fitting eccentric bushes in the control arm.
The rear diff spring pads/mounts on the diff also sag if the suspension is too firm, heavily laden or the vehicle is driven hard.
Everything will fail if you try hard enough.

hi all
come on you all sledge Land Rover for for leaking oil from 30 year old Land Rovers
YOU do not talk about 30 year old toy which were just as bad But when Toys are con fronted with the real truth about the toy 100 Hungy they call foul
Have a look at the Nov 4wdmonthly mag 4 wh d of the year 100 HUNGJ CAME LAST THE JEEP CAME 2 ND