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Birds calls in dash 75 series troopie

Submitted: Monday, Apr 03, 2006 at 16:10

Black Stump

Hello,

I have what seems to be a tweety bird caught in my dash as there are a lot of chirping noises. I have searched the forum archive for bird noises coming from dash and found that the speedo cable is the culprit! I had suspected the speedo cable - the noise comes and goes and the needle jumps around a bit.

But there was no sugestion as to how to fix it. Can you grease or oil the speedo cable to fix this problem? Or do you have to replace the cable with new? My '92 troopy has done 290 000k so I guess the cable needs some lube or is it just warn out!

On another note I went to Dingo Tops NP and Doyles River State Forest on the weekend (south of the oxley hwy and west of Taree). Great bush camping at Maxwell's Flat and plenty of 4wd tracks to explore, beautiful weather and had it all to ourselves!

Thanks for any tips with my problem.
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AnswerID: 164577   Submitted: Monday, Apr 03, 2006 at 16:44

Member JD replied:

Hi Blackstump,
I had the same noise in one of my other forby's,just r&r it I mean 290 ks is a little short of half a mill but not to bad!.
JD
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AnswerID: 164582   Submitted: Monday, Apr 03, 2006 at 17:05

Member - David 0 replied:

I pour powdered graphite into the cable outer. Or if you can seperate outer from inner without damage, give a light spray with CRC or similar then rub powdered graphite onto the wet cable and reassemble.

No more birds

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AnswerID: 164590   Submitted: Monday, Apr 03, 2006 at 17:32

Willem replied:

Get a 4x4 cat....lol
Karoo Jackal
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FollowupID: 419489   Submitted: Monday, Apr 03, 2006 at 17:37

Bros 1 posted:

Willem,
You have certainly been eating razor blades lately.
1. Fritzs with Britzs.
2. 4 x 4 cat.
Cheers,
Bros.

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FollowupID: 419491   Submitted: Monday, Apr 03, 2006 at 17:48

Willem posted:

LOL I need some humour. I have had a hard day at the 'office' trying to sort out permits for far away places. Talk about bureaucracy gone wrong. Cheeeez!

Cheers
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AnswerID: 164594   Submitted: Monday, Apr 03, 2006 at 17:53

Mark T replied:

As a former speedo repair technician, it sounds as though your speedo needs an overhaul.

What is hapening is that the speedo main shaft is dry and is binding. It will eventually break the speedo cable. If you feed graphite and or grease into the cable it will work its way up into the speedo head and stuff it completly.

Take your car to a reputable speedo tech and get it checked. They will dismantle the speedo and clean out all the crap, re grease the main shaft and recalibrate the unit when it is reassembled.

Don't play with it yourself as you'll kill the magnet and have a speedo that reads very, very slow if at all.

Cheers

Mark T
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FollowupID: 419510   Submitted: Monday, Apr 03, 2006 at 18:54

Member - David 0 posted:

I've never had graphite enter my speedo from the cable in 27 years, is this really possible?

You say don't grease, but get someone else to grease, I am curious as to the difference?

Not challenging your knowledge, just would like to know the details for future reference.
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FollowupID: 419561   Submitted: Monday, Apr 03, 2006 at 23:38

Richard Kovac posted:

Funny really I though the speedo in a Troopy was electronic

Would be hard to get the "graphite" down the cable?

Richard
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FollowupID: 419573   Submitted: Tuesday, Apr 04, 2006 at 08:01

Member - David 0 posted:

can i try?

:-)
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FollowupID: 419578   Submitted: Tuesday, Apr 04, 2006 at 08:23

Mark T posted:

While late model Troop Carriers might have electronic, earlier ones were mechanical.

Grease or oil in the speedo usually comes from a worn seal on the gearbox speedo drive gear. There is no seal on the speedo itself. Graphite powder is good to lube a cable and in fact we used to actually add a little grease to the lower third of the cable when we made a new complete inner and outer cable.

However, no grease is better than too much grease. I found that if you tell a person to lightly lube their speedo calbe.. then they used to over dose the system.

In fact one fitter and turner proudly shwed me a grease nipple he had fitted via an attachment to his speedo cable. He then connected his grease gun and kept pumping until he could see grease through his odometer window on the speedo dial.

While I have seen oil damage in a lot of japanse speeds.. Holdens were the worst offender, or at least we saw more of them than any other makes..

So in sumary, graphite is good in SMALL DOSES on the bottome third of the cable. Some of it will work its way up to the top.

Hope tis helps.

Cheers

MT
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AnswerID: 164618   Submitted: Monday, Apr 03, 2006 at 20:31

Steve replied:

Had the same thing with my LC100 after a smash repair down the driver's side. A Hi-lux tried to come in and sit on my lap damaging that side and instrument panel took a mighty shunt. Repairer did a nice job but he thought I was ready for the yellow van when I told him about the bird. Bit like a Magpie. Mine actually seemed to come from all over the place. Sometimes the roof. We actually became accustomed to it as it only happened now & then. Haven't heard it for about 3 weeks now though.
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AnswerID: 164691   Submitted: Tuesday, Apr 04, 2006 at 09:24

Black Stump replied:

Thanks for all the info - as usual this forum is a wealth of information. It's good to hear all points of view and experieinces as you get the full picture.

I will probably try and lube the cable myself with powdered graphite and if I stuff it then take it to a speedo tech!

The birdie has been chirping for 2 years and is getting slowly worse - it's time for some action!!
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FollowupID: 419688   Submitted: Tuesday, Apr 04, 2006 at 17:39

Troopy Travellers (NSW) posted:

I had the exact same thing happen in my 75 model. Used to happen intermittently, always when I went away on holidays!!

The speedo indicator vibrated that bad that it fatigued & broke off.

Mark T was on the money. I took the speedo to a speedo technician & it turns out the spindle was dry in its bearing.. It cost me $85 , fixed up & recalibrated, no more chirping!

The speedo is easy to get out & put back in.

Sparky

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AnswerID: 166728   Submitted: Wednesday, Apr 12, 2006 at 17:39

DesC replied:

Those quality factory seats make you want to chirp.
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