Member- Rox (WA) posted:

Remember it's double demerits this weekend in WA

A.J posted:

Should be double all the time and quadruple on public hols, fines should also be the same, if you cant't afford the habbit, don't do it!

V8Diesel posted:

Valid point (unfortunately).

seqfisho posted:

I'm with you Willem

A license and posted speed limits doesnt mean that everyone is still capable

You cant legistate for common sense

Some have got it and others well...........

The Darwin theory

Glen

Peter posted:

Bit concerned when we start calling for special licences. When Scruby mentioned this for 4wds there was all sorts of outcries. Where would we draw the line? Would you need a special licence if your van exceeded 12' for example? What would the appropriate size be? Many well setup camper trailers would weigh as much, or more, than smaller vans such as a Reo. What about people who load their 6x4 trailer up with rocks or sand/soil? It's possible to get a licence in a 2 door coupe and then sell that and hop into a people mover carrying 8 people with no extra training or restrictions.
Only a couple of caravan mishaps have been reported here. So far this year the Fire Service in Brisbane has responded to in excess of 5000 motor vehicle accidents (I work for QFRS). To my knowledge none of those accidents involved caravans. Why then if there are only a few caravan incidents do we ignore all these other accidents and mention the odd ones? Maybe 'normal' drivers need better licencing regulation?
Yes I do tow a caravan. I'm in the process of upgrading from a 15' to a 21'6" van. Having driven trucks with trailers in the Army I'm aware of the differences in vehicle handling etc. When travelling with the new van I probably won't be sitting on 100kmh a lot of the time. I will drive to the conditions, no doubt because of that I will be accused of causing traffic chaos and driving a 'road block'. So be it, I would rather arrive alive than not at all
Peter

seqfisho posted:

Still something to be said about older technology and lots of steel

Glen.

Member - ROTORD posted:

and cargo barriers which perform like roll cages