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Submitted: Monday, Jul 03, 2006 at 18:16

xtragrouse

Hi Guys

I have just been supplied a Resmed S8 CPAP machine with Humidifier, and am now in a quandry as to which inverter I should buy.

It seems that 200w is the minimum I should consider, and my choices so far seem to be:

Selectronic LD from the 12volt shop $535, Made in Australia 200w 2 yr warranty
Powertech 300w from Jaycar, $299, made in (? China maybe) 1 year warranty.

In my experience, cheap is only when you pay for something and it works well, otherwise, it is expensive, regardless of how little you paid for it.

Can anyone give me an opinion on these units, as I need to purchase and instal before the weekend.

Thanks
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AnswerID: 181647   Submitted: Monday, Jul 03, 2006 at 19:38

guzzi replied:

Does it need to be sine wave or will modified wave do?
I have a fisher and paykel and am looking around for the same reasons as you, the tech I spoke to said mine would run on modified wave but would perfer the pure sine wave variety. Is a saveing of $236 worth $1000 + dollars for a new cpap?
Mine requires a "minimum" of 300w, Im tending to look at the 500w units, Im not likeing the answers on price either.
That and the size of the batteries required to run it for longer than a night or 2.
Does the S8 also run on 12V??
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FollowupID: 437941   Submitted: Monday, Jul 03, 2006 at 19:59

xtragrouse posted:

Both units are pure sine wave. I spoke to a guy who has had the cheaper unit for a couple of years and it works fine apparently. But I am just trying to get the right thinking in my mind.
Yes, the S8 will run on 12v, but not with the humidifier. Resmed have their own 12v converter for $99. But of course, if you are going to the expense and looking long term, then it's worth doing it right to start with.
It sounds like you have a HC230 or HC600, which needs either a modified square wave or Pure Sine wave (Output specifications should match 300w/500w continuous/surge) according to the inverter guide given to me by SJOG hospital Sleep Centre in Perth.
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AnswerID: 181663   Submitted: Monday, Jul 03, 2006 at 21:03

itsdave replied:

I'm using a 150 w Alessi pure sine wave for my Resmed S7. Will run the CPAP fine without the humidifier and can usually get 3 nights out of a 105 a/h AGM battery. If you can get away without using the humidifier then you can save on quite a lot of battery power. When I bought mine I was told that for most medical equipment, pure sine is recomended.

Cheers Dave
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AnswerID: 181679   Submitted: Monday, Jul 03, 2006 at 21:56

Truckster (Vic) replied:

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FollowupID: 437974   Submitted: Monday, Jul 03, 2006 at 22:19

cipher posted:

running the same inverter in my car,

just a caution if you are using this inverter to power a Toshiba notebook dont expect to use your touch pad (mouse) on your laptop as it cuts it out for some strange reason :-S

Also draw alot of power if just left on with no load... However good that it doesnt require a reboot when you kick back in the charge on the battery that it is running off

otherwise a great inverter

Justin
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FollowupID: 438039   Submitted: Tuesday, Jul 04, 2006 at 10:11

Squizzy posted:

Any ideas on how to get the Powertech 500w going again after the overload light comes on?
The light came on when the unit was switched on after some fairly serious corrugations recently.

Geoff
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FollowupID: 438079   Submitted: Tuesday, Jul 04, 2006 at 14:34

cipher posted:

Yeah it could be that there is dust in the unit...

If it is under warranty simply return in, if not try and blow out the dust check that the fan is still spinning...

All else fails try removing power to the unit for some time (let the caps discharge) then try again, could help?

justin
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FollowupID: 438101   Submitted: Tuesday, Jul 04, 2006 at 15:53

Squizzy posted:

Thanks Justin,

The unit is out of warranty (2 years).

I will blow some dust out (although it should be clean where it is mounted) and try to hook it up again and see how it goes.

Geoff.
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AnswerID: 181719   Submitted: Tuesday, Jul 04, 2006 at 08:11

Raymond from Wanderin 4 Wheelers replied:

Hi
We have a Jaycar 750watt pure sine wave one in the motorhome and it works great. Jaycar are fine and look after you
Ray
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AnswerID: 181726   Submitted: Tuesday, Jul 04, 2006 at 08:52

Member - Leigh (Vic) replied:

For the life of me I cannot understand why you don't buy a CPAP with 12V capability. All this mucking around only detracts form what you are trying to enjoy...just too many hassles!! IMHO of course.
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AnswerID: 181734   Submitted: Tuesday, Jul 04, 2006 at 10:02

Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses replied:

If you need an humidifier as well and most do these days I understand, you will need 300W with a good sine wave. I have a DSE one. Make sure your connections are all good to it, even if you have a 50 amp Anderson plug, you could have problems occasionally with some dirt or something restricting the connection.

I think my DSE one is modified sine wave.

As to whether you go for a 12v one, some of the newer ones have a 12v capability to connect somehow, but it is good to have a log of your treatments for compliance purposes, which ever way you go. Having been diagnosed, an electronic log in case of accident will be a lot better for any insurance purposes.
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AnswerID: 181824   Submitted: Tuesday, Jul 04, 2006 at 19:43

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FollowupID: 438184   Submitted: Tuesday, Jul 04, 2006 at 22:11

Truckster (Vic) posted:


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AnswerID: 181888   Submitted: Wednesday, Jul 05, 2006 at 00:06

xtragrouse replied:

thanks for your input guys. Have purchased the Powertech 500 watt model from Jaycar, it gets installed tomorrow, and then on Saturday, we head for the Gunbarrel.
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