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Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 07:38

Mike Harding

I consider the presumption of correcting someone’s spelling to be rudeness and arrogance of the highest order.

Once spelling is elevated to the level of causing embarrassment for individuals many will cease posting to this, and other, forum (or should that be fora?). It should also be remembered that not everyone’s first language is English.

Simply because someone cannot spell does not lessen the value of their contribution.

Correctly spelled or not; crap is still crap and wisdom is worth listening to.

Mike Harding
(Who should be bush but has had a very frustrating week so far – such is life :)

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AnswerID: 186425   Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 07:42

Member - Peter A (VIC) replied:

Too true Mike, I agree 100% with you

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AnswerID: 186427   Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 07:47

Member - Oldplodder (QLD) replied:

Which version of English and which dictionary is correct, if we are to be precise?

But then, if you are like my son, some words the spelling checker can not even guess, since they are far from correct, so if spelling becomes a major hinderance to communication, a little assistance may be called for, in a positive way.
Maybe example might be the best teacher, rather than the rod?

Mike, sounds like you need some bush time :-))

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AnswerID: 186429   Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 07:52

Member - Stephen M (NSW) replied:

Totily agrre withe yu ther Mike, not everybody had the schooling that some people had and not everybody is at the same level, at least there trying and putting there story's/ questions posted here on the forum. Keep em coming guys, people like Mike and majority of us will not comment on your spelling as missing a letter here or there means nothing we still know what your asking at the end of the day. Regards Steve M

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AnswerID: 186432   Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 08:03

Michael Carey replied:

What age do you consider it best to stop learning and correcting yourself? I'm 37.. in no way do I think I have learnt everything there is to know, I take ANY correction to be a valuable learning process. When I pronounce or spell words incorrectly, I would take someones comments on board and modify my mis-pronounciation. Same with my spelling....
I don't want to end up like my Uncle and find out the hard way that I have been spelling incorrectly for 30 years because no one bothered to TELL me that it was wrong... just in case it would hurt my feelings.
But this is just my opinion.
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FollowupID: 443498   Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 08:18

Member - Stephen M (NSW) posted:

Agree with you Michael, but there are ways of doing things with out insulting some one's or making them feel bad, a lot of people do realize that they are not good at spelling and the like but don't need to be put down in front of people, for eg if its a member on here and you feel you need to say some thing send them a personal email but at the same time not attacking them. There are certain ways of doing things. I think kids of today will be the worst spellers in a few years time, just look how they abbreviate every thing via tex messages. My wife jumps at me if I pronounce some thing the wrong way and yes like your self I do remember next time I say it. Regards Steve M

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FollowupID: 443499   Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 08:21

Member - Stephen M (NSW) posted:

Ooops should have been "with out insulting some one's intelligence," should start and use that new spell check. Regards Steve M

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FollowupID: 443501   Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 08:35

Mike Harding posted:

Michael please note:

"I'm 37.."
An ellipse, when used in the middle of a sentence should have three periods, not two.

"incorrectly, I would"
The comma is incorrectly placed here, there is a natural flow to the sentence.

"take someones comments"
Comments should have an apostrophe before the 's', you have used the possessive sense not the plural.

"my mis-pronounciation"
Mispronunciation should not be hyphenated, it is a word in it's own right.

"Same with my spelling...."
This should not be a new sentence because it's a logical continuation and conclusion of your previous statement.

"my Uncle"
Uncle should not have a capital letter in this context.

Shall we continue or shall we concern ourselves with bush type things?

Mike Harding
Who _is_ going bush now :)
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FollowupID: 443507   Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 09:25

Shaker posted:

Ummm ..... Mispronounciation is not a word, it is, in fact 'mispronunciation'.

You are also incorrect that as plural, comment should be comment's
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FollowupID: 443513   Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 09:56

Des Lexic posted:

While everybody is on the band waggon, Stephen M's tag "Oldie But A Goodie", should it not be "Oldy but a Goody"
ROFLMFAO for goodness sake, lighten up everyone and get a (or should it be an efn life) efn life!!!!!!!!!
It's not the years of your life that matters, it's the life in your years that count.
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FollowupID: 443516   Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 10:10

Member - Stephen M (NSW) posted:

Des Lexic, done. Thanks for that only been over a year for that to be bought to my attention. Regards Steve M

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AnswerID: 186436   Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 08:11

Member - Brian H (QLD) replied:

Geeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzz if people corrected me on my spelling mistakes everytime I post ............ they would be kept rather busy LOL ..........

I guess some people are not aware of the correct name of a place ........ I was not aware myself till the post the other day Cameron's Corner was in fact Cameron Corner and I dare say I have always as long as I remember pronounced Charlesville as Charl a ville. Just as well I never had the need to spell it on here phew........ LOL.

Lifes little learning curve :)

Teachers were very good our my school ........ my interest and listening skills let me down lol.

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AnswerID: 186438   Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 08:19

the outlaws replied:

mike,
wlel dnoe on riainsg tihs tpoic but it desont raelly mtater how you spell a word bceauase the mnids eye will pcik up waht you are raednig and copmrened it aynawy .

have a good day mate !!!
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AnswerID: 186440   Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 08:21

Member - Reiner G (QLD) 4124 replied:

I don't think correcting somebody is rude or arrogant, english is my second language and the only way to learn to spell corectly is when you know you spelled wrong.
I have a friend who was a english teacher and I told him he should send my emails back coreckted so I learn. He said no way he keeps my e-mails as party jokes to show people how bad soembody can spell...hehe.
But I have nice friends too :-)

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FollowupID: 443508   Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 09:28

Shaker posted:

I compliment you on your attitude, it is great if you can learn something new each day.
Oh, & by the way it is "corrected" ! ...... lol
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AnswerID: 186443   Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 08:50

Ray Bates replied:

I try to use spell check if I'm in doubt but spell check is not using true English but that American stuff
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AnswerID: 186444   Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 08:50

Member - Mike DID replied:

For those of you who are interested in having accurate spelling in your posts (to make it easy to read, to feel good, to keep me happy, whatever), David has gone to great effort to make it very easy.

Just click on the "Spelling" button - it's just to the right of the "Submit Reply" button you are used to clicking on.

If everyone used this button there would be no threads like this ( this is my personal opinion and has not been verified by a majority of experts in this field.)
Mike R
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AnswerID: 186448   Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 08:57

Member - Brian (Gold Coast) replied:

Well said Mike!!

Cheers

Brian
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AnswerID: 186455   Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 09:36

Footloose replied:

Correcting another persons spelling or grammar should only be done if you either teach school children, or if the recepient has indicated that they wish it to be done. Like anything, it should never embarrass anyone.
English is a living language. But it's of no value if your communication is mis understood. Spelling and grammar should be seen as tools in that respect, rather than absolute "rules".
The Net has added another aspect to our language; that of email which often has its own "shorthand". To some extent this may be seen as another form of literacy (or lack thereof :).

I have a business contact that I email almost every day. He often repeats a basic grammatical mistake, and appears never to have been taught agreement of verbs with their subjects. e.g. " I ARE ". (I am).

As a retired chalkie it sends me crazy, but I don't feel that it's my place to correct him. Nor would, or should, I ever attempt it in a forum.
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AnswerID: 186457   Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 09:39

Member - Jezza (NSW) replied:

I agree with Mike - keep it in context. This is a 4WD, touring and camping forum, not an english literature forum, I think some latitude is appropriate.

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FollowupID: 443512   Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 09:50

scoof posted:

Who really give a toss if the biggest word you know is corrigated iron.
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FollowupID: 443514   Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 09:58

Member - Jezza (NSW) posted:

Spot on.
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AnswerID: 186461   Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 10:03

oldmagpie2 replied:

i cant spell & im not embarressed about it, if they want to supply a button to make it easier for people to read whats the diff? use it or not. cheers
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AnswerID: 186464   Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 10:18

Off-track replied:

I agree but also disagree in part. Agree that everyone has a different ability in spelling and grammar and as long as the message is relayed in an easy to understand fashion then who really cares if it is out a bit here and there.

But I don't think that is the point that most are making. It's sometimes a little frustrating to read posts that contains words that are misspelled and then can be interpreted a different way. Also a word that is very commonly misspelled (such as lose) should be brought to the attention of people...without offending or belittling.

Gee if ya that thin-skinned...
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AnswerID: 186468   Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 10:35

Member - Mike DID replied:

"shall we concern ourselves with bush type things? "

Who is going to tell those that started threads on Water Restrictions, Jedis, Digital Cameras etc that they are not relevant to this Forum? No one has done so up to now.
Mike R
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AnswerID: 186471   Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 10:44

ImEasy replied:

Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah!

Excuse me Mike Harding, can you check I spelt Blah correct.
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AnswerID: 186476   Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 11:12

Member - Jeff M (WA) replied:

Bluddy oth mi man!

This is a forum, not a friggin uni essay or letter to your local member!

When I'm down the pub I don't talk like I would on the phone to a customer either! Sure the spell check feature is nice and I will no doubt use it on occasion, but sometimes I'm writing an emotiv response or do not have the time and at over 80 words per minute I'm inclined to make the odd mistake (if not a whole wave of them).


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AnswerID: 186477   Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 11:17

ExplorOz Team - David replied:

For goodness sake give the spelling posts a break. I added a site feature not a cause for heaps of posts about the way to deal with spelling. If you want to use it use it else just leave mistakes in the posts. I do not want anyone correcting peoples spelling errors in posts this may be embarrassing and is a waste of resources and time, people use this forum to gain knowledge on our subject matter NOT SPELLING lessons.

I will hence forth remove all posts loaded about this topic and ask people to alert us to any continuation of this topic.
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AnswerID: 186478   Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 11:25

The Explorer replied:

Hello
At the high risk of appearing to be a smart ass (and blowing my cover) I have once or twice posted corrections to incorrectly spelt place names. Reason - If at a future time someone does a search of the archives for a place and uses the correct spelling, otherwise informative posts, will not be listed.
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