poor diesel?

probably from them no name servos where they cut the diesel with everythign they can get their hands on

If you Look up the recomended cetane rating of the diesel that your vehicle manufacturer specifies and then check with e.g. shell website which shows the cetane rating of the diesel supplied in your area, you will probably find the that the cetane rating isn't as high as what your 4b should have. I checked myself and noticed this while I was looking at which areas supply a lower waxpoint temperature diesel fuel in the the middle of winter down south......

check it out

There is not much new in this world is there?

With acknowledgement to "Ron" ( as opposed to cetane rating!)

" Reply 2 of 2 posted 03 Apr 2006 at 13:55 - (AnswerID: 164551)
Ron173 replied to the question

There is a minimum cetane rating for diesel for Australian market, I looked into this a while ago.

I cant remember the exact figures. However I can tell you this much:-

All diesel has to meet it and most do just that, with the exception of shell, which exceeds it by a few points.

From this if you are basing it on cetane rating alone that would make Shell the top choice.

If you do some digging on the net under cetane ratings / shell you will be able to confirm this easily.

I find mine runs pretty sweet on Shell although dont always buy it.

Hope this helps

Ron "

Good on you Ron, you old fore runner!

Ive never had what I would call a bad batch of diesel or petrol.
I dont know how you can accurately gauge the quality by feel.
Its a bit like the endorsemnts in those fuel saver gadgets where "Mr Simpson "of Cremorne say his car "seems" to have more power or Mr Jones believes his fuel economy has improved 13.735% in the last 22 klms just from looking at the gauge.

If you get what you think is a bad batch take a sample and see if it can be tested ,if thats possible.

You cant scoff at Bill S unscientific claims then do it yourself;)

Hi Paul , Yes i have notice the difference in fuel quality... I try to fill up with BP diesel for my 100ser. crusier. As i get more out Km's out of may tank.Using other fuel product i lose up to 50km to 100km out of the tank.So I'm sticking to Bp all the way..
Cheers...

The quality of diesel supplied by all servo's can and does vary, despite claims that you can't detect the difference by driving anyone who is driving a vehicle constantly will notice any difference virtually straight away after refuelling.
I drive a Coaster bus with a 1HZ diesel (same as a cruiser) for work, always refuel at the same servo 3 times a week (shell).
Every now and then I'll notice after filling up that it is down on power and it remains that way till the next fill.
I've also noticed when travelling that occasionally a tank of fuel will not give the same get up and go, conversely you can occasionally get a tankfull that makes the old bus purr along.
Last week I refuelled just after the tanker had been, picked up lots of crap and now after draining the tank, flushing the entire fuel system and two fuel filters it looks like a pump and injector service will be required.
It will be interesting to see whether Shell comes to the party, initial reception to complaints has been favourable.
The sample removed from the fuel tank is like dirty milk with a thick brown sludge at the bottom.

I have been putting Wollys/Caltex in the patrol for nearly a year I suppose and recently filled up with Shell on a trip, I noticed a jump in my economy of 11.2%. I repeated the exercise with fills of Shell and Wollys and got the same results over the same trip and very similar weather conditions.

I do keep accurate records and my long term average is what I am looking at. I have been using shell for about two months now and the improvement is sitting on around 8.5%

I agree, 2 days ago I put some Chemtech Diesel Power in my Hilux (Had some left over from the boat) and so far I am blown away, I will get 720km's from this tank , city driving. To be fair I also got the diesel from a brand new Independent Servo on way to Hastings. Normally I get around 680km's per tank, city drivng combined. The vehicle has clocked 28,000km's so perhaps it has suddenly also loosened up.? I lean towards the Chemtech DP, but I will keep on playing with all of this and recording results.

Oh yes, I also remember the only fuel that would get me the big k's was bp fuel

THIS IS THE BEST YOU CAN DO . ADD LPG TO YOUR DIESEL , INCREASES OCTAINE AND BURNS CLEAN. I CHANGED THE OIL ONE ONE THAT HAD DRIVEN FROM MELBOURNE TO DARWIN AND IT WAS CLEAN LIKE A PETROL. I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS COMPANY , JUST VERY EAGER TO SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT LPG.

www.dieselgasaustralia.com.au/Faq.aspx

pauljohnston
maybe BP is using some sort of additive
snailbait

Since having this same debate within our industry I decided to do some checking on the web re diesel fuel in Australia. After reading several reports I decided to use BP in our vehicles, Truck, Bobcat and 2 only 4wd dual cab utes. Each vehicle showed 10% better fuel economy and an increase in available power. The increase in power was most evident in the Bobcat.

The reports that I studied indicated that BP diesel was cleaner than most and had a better cetane rating than any of them.

Prior to this I used the no-name type servos because of price.

Cheers
Paul