lpg gas conversions prado

Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 17:28

jew

I have a 2001 Toyota Prado 3.4 petrol which I'm considering converting to LPG. All gas installers have said its totally compatible however Toyota advise against due to soft valve-seats/ long term head concerns???? Any comments??
Cost is approx $3000 for quality components with $2000 rebate - seems plausible, however not if future problems.
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AnswerID: 190082   Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 17:42

RupertDog replied:

Jew

I am currently looking at the same, but for a 99 Prado.

My understanding is that by installing a fast lube kit, it lubricate the valves and stops these problems.

Currently in WA State Govt is giving a further $1000 to install gas, so it makes it very attractive to install.

Only problem is the 8 week plus waiting period !

RD
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FollowupID: 447816   Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 23:19

slammin posted:

FWIW Just did 2.7 hilux 99, new exhaust valves & seats and fastlube.

First drive on W-end very novel to do 200 k's and watch the petrol gauge not move a whisker. Unnoticable in power difference, way to early for consumption.

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AnswerID: 190091   Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 18:34

Member - Stan (VIC) replied:

Plenty people run them on 90 series list...
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AnswerID: 190117   Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 20:45

Andrew-rodeo replied:

Hey Jew!!
I converted a prado to gas where i work. With yours being a 2001 model there is no warranty concerns. So why wouldn't you convert. The only concern with Toyotas (this includes any toyota with bucket type tappets) is you MUST get you tappets checked and adjusted regulary, probably every 40,000km. Yes this adds a bit to the price of a service/tune, but for the thousands of dollars you will save every 40,000km would it hurt to pay a few hundred to do the tappets???
And i dont want to hang bleep on Mr Fitch, but if those fuel catalysts are so good why aren't any manufactures fitting them to new cars, with fuel economy being a BIG selling point of any new car.
Just some food for thought.
Hope this can help solve any questions you had.
Cheers Andrew
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FollowupID: 447771   Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 21:09

George posted:

"...if those fuel catalysts are so good why aren't any manufactures fitting them to new cars, with fuel economy being a BIG selling point of any new car...'

For the same reason why hospitals don't employ faith healers and only some politicians prefer praying for rain instead of building dams...
Cheers
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FollowupID: 447772   Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 21:17

George posted:

All will notice I have achieved this whole follow up with out mentioning the name of any politician :)
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FollowupID: 447777   Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 21:30

Andrew-rodeo posted:

QUESTION: What have hospitals, faith healers, politicians, praying for rain and building damns got to do with fuel economy??
ANSWER: Absolutly nothing.
Stick to the topic of what is being discussed please, or don't type anything. Forums are for people to ask questions and get responses on others experience and knowledge.
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FollowupID: 447779   Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 21:37

George posted:

It seems my friend that my comment was to subtle for you. Faith healers and politicians praying for rain are in the same category as magical fuel saving devices such as Fitch. Neither is effective but there are many who choose to believe in them nevertheless.
Cheers
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FollowupID: 447783   Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 21:48

Andrew-rodeo posted:

Sorry George, the brain was having some down time (due to screaming kids) and didnt read you reply properly. Now its quiet and i have read it properly it all makes sense.
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FollowupID: 447795   Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 22:16

George posted:

No worries Andrew, in retrospect I should have more clearly present my opinion regarding the F*tch “device” (lets see if this modified spelling will still come out as a link).
Cheers
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AnswerID: 190141   Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 21:46

GaryInOz (Vic) replied:

Once again, Bill S you have answered unasked questions.

Once again, put your money where your mouth is and PROVE BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT that your $2 worth of tin balls actually does something.

Have a look here for a link about costs involved in a dyno test. Why not contact the Dyno center named in the thread???

Not that expensive is it??? Less than the cost of one of your tin cans, and you could legally write it off as a tax deduction for R&D.

You could solve your credibility problems on this forum sooooo easily................................
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FollowupID: 448425   Submitted: Thursday, Aug 24, 2006 at 15:50

BILL from Fitch Fuel Catalyst Australia Pty Ltd posted:

Garyinoz, I have no credibility problems on this forum as my replies are deleted.What proof I have I shall keep to myself,as most do not want to believe what I tell you,thats their problem not mine,it is costing them money not me.I could post a letter of the highest authority and it would be floored by the knowalls,so whats the point?? Keep smiling and wasting at least a litre of fuel every 100klms you drive for the rest of your life,after it is your money and OUR fuel supplies wasted. ,and OUR atmosphere you are needlessly polluting.

Regards BILLS
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FollowupID: 448437   Submitted: Thursday, Aug 24, 2006 at 16:13

GaryInOz (Vic) posted:

Bill S (now Bill, I see...to get around you ban??????)

Please read this.
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AnswerID: 190144   Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 21:51

SA_Patrol replied:

I know a lady that has her 90 series Grande into Peter Daveys Toyota's in Prospect and she has nothing but troubles with it. it keeps stuffing up the air flow meter I think. Ford's are the only cars that add gas in there cars from new , but they made the engine to suit it. My old GQ had gas but eventually it gave problems to the heads just like it will do to Toyota engines, The Gas installers only want your money, they won't fix your engine if it stuffs up down the track
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FollowupID: 447789   Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 21:56

GaryInOz (Vic) posted:

Neither will Bill S ;-)

Have a read of the disclaimer on their website..............
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AnswerID: 190152   Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 22:25

Andrew-rodeo replied:

I hope Bill reads all this and sees that there are not too many people willing to pay $600 for some ball bearings and he apologises to JEW who asked a simple question and had to read all the crap that Bill created.
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