80 Series Warning Lights all Stay on.
Submitted: Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 19:07
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95ToyoLandcruiser
On the weekend I went in the mud, went through a large mud hole twice (for the fun) but on exit the second time all the engine warning lights came on and stayed on. eg Battery, Oil, Timing Belt, all of the along the bottom (not the door one though. Any way figured I have muddy
water in a connector somewhere but looked at all I could see to no avail. Can anyone tell me where all of these warning lights have a common connection???? I figure they are joined somewhere probably power wire as they all came on at once and not one at a time.
Any info is greatly appreciated and exact info even better LOL.
Thanks Richard
P.S. I did search the archives already
Reply By: Craigww2 - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 19:13
Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 19:13
Possibly try giving your altenator a good clean out. Maybe even pull it out and strip it down and give it a birthday. It could be the connections to the alt also.
Hope this helps
Cheers
Craig
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Follow Up By: 95ToyoLandcruiser - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 20:03
Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 20:03
Ok I will give the alternator a birthday, anyway of waterproofing it better for next time??
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Follow Up By: Member - Ivan (ACT) - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:20
Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:20
How exposed is the alternator to mud from the bottom? - on one of our recent trips, four cars had the same symptoms - all with standard Toyota bar. The ones that didn't suffer had the ARB.
The difference? - a metal plate from the bottom of the bar on the ARB to the bash plate... This is something you could easily fit yourself if you thought it was the problem (even with the Toyota OEM bar)
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Follow Up By: 95ToyoLandcruiser - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:32
Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:32
I am actually geting an ARB Bullbar and winch on Friday, so hopefully that may fix it. I have pulled off the connectors and sprayed them with WD 40, they were pretty clean lights still there though, I will test the output of the alternator in the morning to make sure it is still charging. Then I guess the weekend will be under the hood pulling it apart.
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Reply By: mowing - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 19:25
Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 19:25
Richard, The alternator (er) theory may be correct as when my alternator went on the 60 series, the dash lit up like a Christmas tree, every warning light came on.
Regards
Mark
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Reply By: Member - Mal B - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 19:40
Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 19:40
remove the plug near the altenator give it a good clean with a dewatering spray then spray with a light oil [ say a silicone based one] and refit should be ok safe driveing mal b
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Follow Up By: 95ToyoLandcruiser - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:36
Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:36
Mal thanks, done that but no change. Any other ideas????
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Follow Up By: Member - DOZER- Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 21:20
Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 21:20
New brushes in the alt
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Reply By: Trekkie (Member - WA) - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:53
Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:53
Hi
I have had similar problems with my 100s
It is a known problem
The following is directly from the Technical area of the LCOOL site
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Dash Warning Lights
A common problem is that the dash warning lights come on suddenly. They may go off after a while, flicker every now and then or go off when the motor is revved. The problem often occurs after wading through a deep muddy bog.
The culprit is the alternator. Grit may become embedded under the alternator brushes and it stops charging. This brings all the dash lights on (that's one way to get your attention!). Or, the alternator is on its last legs and will need new brushes or a complete rebuild.
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I said I was going to get back to the group regarding all the warning lights in the dashboard of my 91 model standard 80 coming on. The final outcome is that the alternator is ok but there is also a square type plug that fits into the rear of the alternator. This plug on closer inspection had moisture and dirt inside it. I cleaned it and gave it a spray with some WD40. Also the lead from the battery that connects to the alternator with an "eyelet" connector via a 12mm nut was found to be rusty/corrosive nut. A clean with a piece of sand paper and hopefully I have fixed the problem .
Steve Dalli
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Follow Up By: 95ToyoLandcruiser - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 08:07
Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 08:07
Steve,
Thanks for that. I checked that the alternator was charging and it is according to the multimeter. I checked the push in plug last night and it seemed ok, sprayed with WD 40 but the problem was still there, I will clean the other connector tonight and if it still doesn't fix it, I will be lost. Might have to pull it apart completely.
Is there a way to
water proof the alternator?
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Reply By: Joombi - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 08:24
Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 08:24
Richard,
mines going in to be fixed today, same thing, all dash lights on.
Mine is the alt overcharging, will let you know what the damage is & if it was brushes or a re build,
Rick
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Follow Up By: Joombi - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 11:27
Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 11:27
forgot to mention, I did all the cleaning of the plug & everything else & it used to work but now they stay on and the volt meter drops when you turn anything on.
hope yours is just the plug.
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Reply By: fatz - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 09:56
Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 09:56
As above, clean the connections on the back of the alternator, and clean out the plug as
well. It may take a few attempts but it will work. Grab some carby cleaner from an auto
shop and use this to clean it. Tighten the connections in the plug with a small screwdriverer.
This has happened twice to me, on both an 80 and my current 100. Once you have cleaned it all, put lots of lanolin on it.
Good luck with it.
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Reply By: Jeppie - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 17:07
Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 17:07
The same thing will happen when the brushes in the alternator wear out.
The worst thing is that you will not get any warning.
It happened to my Hilux on
Easter Sunday in
Renmark.
I was able to drive all the way to
Port Augusta and had it fixed there.
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Reply By: 95ToyoLandcruiser - Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 10:27
Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 10:27
Just letting you all know, I took it to an auto electrician and yes the Alternator was sad. The bit that looks like a heap of wires with multiply connections coming off it, was full of dirt and mud. The bloke reckons it has been like that for ages and is probably the original one so has done 300 000km. Anyway he reconditioned it and fixed up the solinoid for my Dual Battery set up new wiring etc and a new Deep Cycle battery too. Now all is good.
Some advice he gave was when you go through mud/dirty
water, he recommended to thoroughly wash the Alternator with the hose when you get
home. I didn't think you could get that much
water into them but you can with no worries apparently.
Richard
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Follow Up By: Craigww2 - Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 11:10
Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 11:10
Good news
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