Angler posted:

I reckon the biggest problem with electric cars is the manfacturers seem to want t tro do the same as a petrol powered car when in reality it really needs the following.

Capable of maintaining about 70Kph
Capable of travelling about 50Km without a recharge
Capable of carrying the supermarket shopping.

It will then be a real winner with most people doing what most small cars do.

For extended travel I will stick to my Patrol

Pooley

Leroy posted:

I think the ev1 cold do more than 300km/recharge so that;s pretty impressive. For putting around town I reckon they will be the way to go in the future but like anything (and if you do a google on the ev1) it takes time to change a mindset.

Leroy

Member No 1 posted:

and for really long distance travelling/work i will stick to my cruiser..:))))

Leroy posted:

theyre far from an all purpose vehicle and wouldn't suit everybody. If you lived in the larger cities and used it for commuting then it could be a possibility.

Leroy

Leroy posted:

and what's so inappropriate?

Leroy

PatrolBen posted:

I could continue but my comments will not be appropriate for this thread so out of respect for people who have a genuine interest in this topic I will not post them. They mainly stem from the nostalgia and yee-ha feeling when I start the truck up. Fossil fuels have to go but I will sorely miss em.
Horses for courses.

Patrolben

Leroy posted:

oh you mean you have an opinion? Fine but if inappropriate no need to comment in the first place!

Leroy

Member No 1 posted:

not if you take your own genny

Footloose posted:

Great, but where am I going to get the fuel to run it ? :)

Member No 1 posted:

dont you know anything footy!....trewth mate.....syphone it out of all the nissans that have been abandoned due to engine failures

Footloose posted:

Hmm...good thinking 99

Member - 'Lucy' posted:

Try mastering 7days at KI first.

Remember - one must crawl before one walks Mudster.

Muddy doe (SA) posted:

hah,

wondering when you might bob up!

thought you would be on the road by now!!!!

See ya Friday

Gramps (NSW) posted:

LOL and I thought this was just another boring thread about renewable energy but with a twist a conspiracy theory WOW !!!!

Member No 1 posted:

bugga the conspiracy theory.....where can i collect the 100 whatsanames

Gramps (NSW) posted:

Hahahahahaha it's only Lucy playing with your mind MN1 :))))))

JNeiss posted:

Hello NicI

I totally agree with you. These EV have huge weight saving due to the enormous torque of the motor.(Like you said NO diff, NO trans, The brakes are the motors.

Actually 3000 EV were produced in 2004 and by 2005 the orders were coming fast.
I am talking here of very nice cars, (NO GOLF BUGGY).
GMH , Honda etc.. all had a EV.

I believe like you electric car future without fossil fuel.

The Melbourne based EV enthusiasts is interesting with their EV solutions.

John

Scubaroo posted:

Bingo - any electric vehicle that is recharged via the electricity grid rather than generating it's own electricity (like current hybrids do) is simply generating it's pollution remotely - and potentially more - I wonder how the emissions from Hazelwood power station in Victoria would stack up against petrol engine emissions if you started driving a "clean" rechargeable car that was ultimately being powered by dirty brown coal. There's not enough green power generation in this country to allow rechargeable electric cars to be a clean alternative.

Did anyone hear about the Google Foundation's plans to design and commerically mass-produce an ethanol/electric hybrid? They're sitting on squillions of cash so they decided to do something to help the planet a bit - sounds interesting, but I haven't found much more information on it other than the original announcement.

There's already hybrid "SUVs" being manufactured in the US, and E85 is a big selling point as well over there. Ultra-clean efficient diesels are also making a comeback in the US as well. OTOH in Australia we have Holden bragging about a new 6L V8 family sedan with "minimal" increase in consumption. If the US (heaviest user of energy per capita on the planet) can start to see reason and make inroads into reduced fossil fuel consumption and cleaner technologies, hopefully we aren't too far behind.

Mike Harding posted:

Which is why we need to go nuclear ASAP.

Sparkiepete posted:

Mike harding has said it first. We need to go nuclear. With the kind of "clean" power it produces plus electric cars we could easily turn the tables on any pollution. I realise that Nuclear power is dangerous but in this day and age we should be capable enough to build and maintain nuclear stations with ease.
The only problem is our vast national transport system.
We need to allow our transport system to keep using our fossil fuels to keep going but if we could start getting cars and recreational vehicles( don't know about motorbikes though) running on a clean source like electricity it would help clean the air in a lot of places(Sydney, I am looking at you) I am sure they are capable of creating better batteries and charging systems to match them.
Power doesn't seem to be a problem as they are capable of 185KW with maximum torque at start up.

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Granted it is light but its a start.

All right, just grabbing my flame retardant suit now ;-)

robak (QLD) posted:

yes nuclear may be part of the answer but we all know he dangers. We just have to wait for a government who needs to balance it's books and sell off the nuclear power plants. Then the managment "has a responibility to the shareholders" and begins cost cutting and "restructuring". We can't even operate our sewage treatment plants without mishaps.

Question is how far away would you want YOUR house from the plant. Both my grandmothers lived in different countries in central europe. Not russia. And both died within 9 months after chernobyl. Both from cancer.

There is no easy way of sustaing our lifestyle.

R.

NicI posted:

I agree totally that our lifestyles are not easy to sustain. Could households conceivably have solar/wind/fuel cell/hydro power generation enough to run some domestic appliances and recharge a car ? Would something like that, in conjunction with public transport and a modest reduction in our lifestyles, at least go some way to using less non-renewable energy ?

Scubaroo posted:

I'm far more worried about countries like Iran and North Korea building substandard nuclear powerplants based on cold war designs than having modern nuclear power plants in Australia.

Member - Bware (Tweed Valley) posted:

Hahahaha. The G1500 comes with two girls!

JNeiss posted:

Wazza

What an interesting site.

In Australia as well.

Really great.

John