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Bit of advise for first timers

Submitted: Wednesday, Oct 04, 2006 at 13:17

jan&wellsy

Hey all :-)

My husband and i are flirting with the idea of taking a trip across the top end in about 2 years time. Our kids will then be 3 & 4. Im just wanting some advise from people who have been there and done it b4 as to what a good reliable 4WD would be (we are thinking a landcruiser but are unsure whats the best model ect.) also any other advise anyone thinks is appropriate. We are first timers at this even though we have moved around alot, we have never done a big planned trip. We are going to have a few "practice runs" closer to home before we go.

Thanks in advance
Jan :-)
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AnswerID: 197783   Submitted: Wednesday, Oct 04, 2006 at 13:45

Footloose replied:

Hi Jan. Much of the geographically specific info you get may be out of date by the time you go.
Only you know your requirements. Vehicle will depend on your budget. Get as good as you can afford and be sure its maintained before you set off. Breakdowns are costly. You might want to consider a diesel vehicle for the range and grunt. If pulling anything get a turbo.
Recce trips are great as they get the bugs out. Just be prepared for the arguments over who packed what where :))
Above all, enjoy the planning and preparation. You'll all have a great time.
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AnswerID: 197784   Submitted: Wednesday, Oct 04, 2006 at 13:46

ExplorOz Team - Michelle replied:

Hi Jan,
Your question may be a bit opened ended for this Forum since all our readers are likely to have done this and the big question as to what vehicle can open a can of worms of opinions.

Perhaps you might take my advice as the co-owner/writer of this site and take a browse through the very large collection of articles across the site - theres a whole section dedicated to Trips with Kids - with specific articles suiting age groups including babies, see Site Link

there is also a section on Vehicle Choices, see Site Link

and specific overviews of each region of Australia, see www.exploroz.com/States/Default.asp

including the Top End with links to all the relevant Trek Notes, Road Conditions, and other useful pages you could possibly hope for. See www.exploroz.com/Regions/TopEnd.asp

After reading through all these pages on this site relevant to your trip, my suggestion would be to then come back to the Forum with your specific questions that you feel have been left unanswered or upon which you need specific guidance.

Hope this helps and best of luck with your trip planning. Enjoy the site!
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FollowupID: 456341   Submitted: Wednesday, Oct 04, 2006 at 14:50

Mike Harding posted:

>and the big question as to what vehicle can open
>a can of worms of opinions.

Not at all!

Quite clearly; she should buy an Engel.

Mike Harding :)
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FollowupID: 456343   Submitted: Wednesday, Oct 04, 2006 at 15:07

Gerhardp1 posted:

Evakools rule and rhyme as well
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AnswerID: 197791   Submitted: Wednesday, Oct 04, 2006 at 14:12

Member - Bware (Tweed Valley) replied:

Hi Jan,
Good on you for wanting to get out there. I agree with Michelle's above reply though; if you are new to camping and 4wding, there is alot to take on board. Start camping now to work out your camping gear requirements. Some people take the bare necessities, others take lots of stuff. This will help you decide what type of vehicle you need. Whether you move regularly when camping or stay put for a few days in each spot will influence the type of set-up you have. Tent or camper trailer? If you use a fridge there is the dual battery and/or solar panels issue. Afamily of four will need a large wagon or dual cab but on the other hand, if you decide to take a trailer you could get by with a smaller vehicle.

Get a dome tent, a stove, an esky and bedding and go camping with whatever vehicle you have now. It's amazing how many ideas you will come up with sitting around a fire.

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FollowupID: 456339   Submitted: Wednesday, Oct 04, 2006 at 14:20

Member - Bware (Tweed Valley) posted:

Another way of getting ideas is go for a wander through caravan parks and camping grounds when they're busy and check out all the different set-ups; it's like a free 4wd/camping expo :-)))

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AnswerID: 197794   Submitted: Wednesday, Oct 04, 2006 at 14:25

Member - Jeff H (QLD) replied:

Jan,
You may, in time, consider becoming a member of this sad fraternity. At times, members may be reluctant to broadcast their comments (and insults) widely, but member to member contact can be very rewarding.

Be warned, addiction is possible.(True, Gentleman No.1 ?) Best wishes, and happy family raising, your kids will be winners. Jeff.

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AnswerID: 197811   Submitted: Wednesday, Oct 04, 2006 at 16:11

Member - Oldplodder (QLD) replied:

Jan & Wellsy

Welcome, and what a good place to start, with a nice big open question :o).

Not having done the big trip, as I can only afford to have a couple of months off every couple of years, may not be able to help too much. But we have been travelling around parts of this country for 20 years now with a 4wd, and started with our 2 boys when one was 4 yrs and the other 6mths. They no longer come with the 'oldies' any more since they are 20 & 24.

Have also introduced my better half to camping along the way. Funny how some families are camping families, and some not.

We built up the experience of what suited us as we went. Been through 4 tents now and progressing to a camping trailer (CT common abbreviation) in the next year as we get older. We travel cheap and reasonably light with not too many mod cons. Have friends with 18' and 22' vans that couldn't travel with out them, but they don't get to some of the places we go to, since we really like national parks and out of the way places. Big thing is I don't mind driving dirt roads and tracks, while some friends hate them.

Yes, budget is a major defining factor. And a bit of inginuity helps a lot.

Have learnt a lot from this site just reading too.

So suggest you do a few camping trips to find what you need, even if you borrow a bit of gear for now. Then you will work out what you want.

Vehicle wise, budget will decide, but a good basic 4wd will get you most places, and trip preparation will save you a lot of grief on the road.

Good luck, and enjoy the adventure. The dreaming is the best place to start.


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FollowupID: 456359   Submitted: Wednesday, Oct 04, 2006 at 16:18

Member - Oldplodder (QLD) posted:

Sorry, didn't really answer the vehicle question.
If you know landcruisers, the 60 series is getting a bit old, but some good ones around. 80 series a number of good ones around, and if the budget stretches, maybe a 100 series. All good reliable vehicles with parts available.
And don't forget the patrols of the same ages, also worth a look.
Matter of finding the particular vehicle in your area in good condition and hopefully with a few accessories that may save some money instead of adding later.

As you see, we have been happy with a pajero and a roof rack, but one may not work for an extended trip of a good few months. People have done it though witht he mid range 4wds.

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AnswerID: 197823   Submitted: Wednesday, Oct 04, 2006 at 17:25

Member - Phantom (WA) replied:

Hi Jan,
Welcome the the site and you will learn much here.
SWMBO & I have developed a fairly comprehensive camping check list over several years now. We are definitely 5 star campers and have most mod cons. I would be happy to share my list with you, if for no more than thought starters. I can email it to you if you wish.
By the way, we have an 80 series cruiser with an Aussie Chuck Wagon in the back and love it.
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FollowupID: 456779   Submitted: Friday, Oct 06, 2006 at 21:27

jan&wellsy posted:

The list would be awsome thanks Steve - Give a place to start anyway. Our e-mail address is Jwel3496@bigpond.net.au
Cheers :-)
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AnswerID: 197840   Submitted: Wednesday, Oct 04, 2006 at 19:20

Member - Brian (Gold Coast) replied:

Welcome Jan.....

The only bit of advice I can give you is when you have bought your fourby, please consider an approved four wheel driving course.... at the very least join a club that has a Driver Awareness Unit, and learn to drive the 4by as it was intended to be driven. Even if you think you may never put it in low range..... at least learn how to if you ever need to!

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FollowupID: 456424   Submitted: Wednesday, Oct 04, 2006 at 20:55

Member - Maureen C (NSW) posted:

Couldn't agree more Brian, even though you have a vested interest.

We did a course when we bought our XTrail and we learnt what the car could do, what we could do, and how to to it safely. We were pleasantly surprised, and on our first trip did things we wouldn't have dreamed possible in that vehicle.

We have just bought a Prado and will definitely update our skills with another course.

Just make sure you both tackle everything on the course. Don't leave it to just one.

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FollowupID: 456434   Submitted: Wednesday, Oct 04, 2006 at 21:35

Member - Brian (Gold Coast) posted:

"Couldn't agree more Brian, even though you have a vested interest. "

Maureen, I don't have a vested interest..... I honestly believe that anyone who buys a 4by should learn how to drive it. We learned by joining our club, and our club gets many people who join because it's cheaper than a commercial course and then never come to another meeting. I think there's nothing wrong with that, at least they have been shown how to drive, and it may save their life one day.

I am sure you will love your Prado, they are a fantastic vehicle! Maybe some pics on your members profile??

Cheers

Brian.
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AnswerID: 198097   Submitted: Friday, Oct 06, 2006 at 16:16

jan&wellsy replied:

Wow thanks everyone! Great to meet you all. Im sure i shall become a member in the very near future. We are looking at a toyota prado on the weekend, sounds good so we will see. Thanks for the advise about visiting caravan parks for a look. We have a very busy one here so i shall be there noseing around! Im sure i will have 1000's more questions for you all before we go and i look foward to getting to know you all.
Cheers Jan :-) (Roons)
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