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Holes in snorkel..........

Submitted: Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 20:36

Member - Roachie (SA)

One of the things I want to do something about on the Chevnissan I bought earlier this week is close-off 2 holes that one of the 2 previous owners has drilled in the bloody snorkel, in front of the A pillar. These holes are about 50mm diameter and were put there supposedly to allow more air to be provided to the hungry donk. There is also a small hole of about 1/4" right at the bottom of the Safari snorkel, presumably to allow water to escape when it rains....(gawd knows what they thought might happen if/when he went through a river!!!!!!!!).

Anyway, just seeking advice from any knowing person/s about how best to seal-up these holes. The small one can just be filled with some silastic I guess. But the 2 biggies will need a bit of thought, especially as they face forwards and are very prominent. I'm thinking that I should try to cut out some similar-type plastic discs, the same size as the holes and glue them (plastic weld?) in place.....but what adhesive would do the trick; Plastibond maybe?

Any advice (short of "buy a new snorkel) would be appreciated.

I guess I could try to source a snorkel (or at least that portion that i want to replace) from a wreckers etc. Does anybody know if the outside section of the snorkel finishes where it enters the hole in the guard? I'm guessing that it does and that immediately inside the guard there is another straight bit that goes down to the front of the inner guard?

Thanks in advance for all advice.

Roachie

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AnswerID: 208060   Submitted: Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 21:01

Pilbara2 replied:

50mm PVC conduit bungs glued into position should do the job however the colour of the snorkle would be odd. Suppose some paint would fix this.
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FollowupID: 467993   Submitted: Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 21:04

Member - Roachie (SA) posted:

Thanks for the idea mate....will look into it tomorrow.

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AnswerID: 208061   Submitted: Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 21:01

ZukScooterX90 (QLD)Member replied:

Roachie being who you are i think you already know the answer to your question,but if i may be bold i if ti were my wheels or in this case snorkel i would not bother mucking around penny pinching & put another snorkel & two if it is not getting enough air,have seen it on some 4x4s.:o))
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FollowupID: 467992   Submitted: Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 21:04

Member - Roachie (SA) posted:

Now there's a thought......2 new snorkels........top idea! I wonder if I could get a driver's side one the same as the left one? Hmmmm ....hahahaha

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AnswerID: 208062   Submitted: Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 21:02

Member - extfilm (NSW) replied:

Hey Roachie,

A mate of mine was a proffessional Rodeo kayaker (until he compressed 3 vertibrae doing cartwheels down a 65 foot waterfall in his kayak). I used to watch him repair big holes in his plastic kayak by using patches and heat.
Although the plastic is very thin on your snorkel.... I would probably be inclined to cut a piece about 7mm bigger, use a hot glue gun to glue them together and then using a hot piece of steel gently weld the seam together..
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FollowupID: 467995   Submitted: Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 21:08

Member - Roachie (SA) posted:

Okay, similar to one of my 1st thoughts, except I was thinking of a round metal "coin" with a small hole in the middle and scrwed through with a butterfly bolt on the inside. Your idea would be neater.

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AnswerID: 208063   Submitted: Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 21:02

Eric Experience. replied:

Roachie.
There are plastic bungs in the floor of most cars, they are there to allow the paint to drain out when the body is dipped in the rust proofing.One of those bungs would fit in your hole.
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FollowupID: 467996   Submitted: Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 21:08

Member - Roachie (SA) posted:

Thanks Eric......will check this out too.....

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AnswerID: 208064   Submitted: Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 21:03

Member - John replied:

Roachie, maybe try a plastic welder, they may be able to fix it? I had one cut and shut a water tank once, could hardly tell where it was done. John
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FollowupID: 467998   Submitted: Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 21:09

Member - Roachie (SA) posted:

Would like to get a plastic welder to do the job "right", but they're a bit thin on the ground out here in the sticks.....maybe when I'm down in the 'smoke' next time?

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AnswerID: 208065   Submitted: Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 21:06

Alloy c/t replied:

Pluging / plastic welding / silicon / all will work , gunna look butt ugly butt , for a man that has every known 4x4 gizmo known to man , the very least your new truck deserves is a schmick new snorkel ,
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FollowupID: 467999   Submitted: Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 21:12

Member - Roachie (SA) posted:

Thanks mate; but I'd like to keep this one if possible ......... I'm not too worried about it being "butt ugly"......after all, I do drive a Nissan, so ugly is as ugly does (as Forrest Gump would say)...hahaha

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AnswerID: 208067   Submitted: Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 21:07

acdc replied:

You can plastic weld with a soldering iron,find some scrap black plastic.
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FollowupID: 468001   Submitted: Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 21:13

Member - Roachie (SA) posted:

I s'pose it can't hurt to give the old soldering iron a run for it's money.....what's the worst that can happen (melt the Patrol I s'pose)..hahaha

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AnswerID: 208069   Submitted: Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 21:12

Richard Kovac replied:

Can you show as your hole
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FollowupID: 468002   Submitted: Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 21:13

Member - Roachie (SA) posted:

Only in the privacy of my own home!!!!! hehehe

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FollowupID: 468003   Submitted: Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 21:19

Richard Kovac posted:

It's a bit like warming the hole of my body...
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AnswerID: 208071   Submitted: Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 21:16

Member - Jiarna (NT) replied:

Hi Roachie

Perhaps you could try gluing new discs of plastic in place with Loctite 406 (super glue for difficult to bond materials). I keep a tube handy and it's amazing what you can fix with it. Better than cheapie super glue. The trick in your case will be to cut the fill-in discs with tight enough tolerance for the super glue to grab hold - try cutting very slightly bigger then filing down in a slight wedge shape for a tight fit.

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AnswerID: 208077   Submitted: Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 21:40

Exploder replied:

Why not just swap over the Snorkel from the Old Rig to the new one and put the snorkel from the new rig back on the old one.
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AnswerID: 208080   Submitted: Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 21:51

Member - Andy Q (VIC) replied:

G'day Roachie,
Clark Rubber is your answer. They have a variety of rubber bungs in most sizes from 5mm to 100mm, these are like the 'rubber bungs' in the floor of some vehicles. Do not use silicone it will come unstuck not long after you apply it, it does not stick to rubber or plastic permanently. Use a proper gasket sealent.
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AnswerID: 208081   Submitted: Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 22:14

Brian B (QLD) replied:

Roachie,

As someone else said earlier, those plastic welder guys are very good. When I was at work we used them all the time on repairing government vehicles with holes torn in bumpers etc and you couldn't tell where the repair had been done when they were finished.

Next time you are in the city it might be worth your while to let one of them have a look for you.

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AnswerID: 208086   Submitted: Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 22:48

Blaze replied:

Hi Roachie,

Ifc they are around the 50mm as stated, you should be able to get a 50mm rubber gromet, same as used in chassis pans to allow wiring etc, just larger, some dark coloured silly-astic and bobs your uncle. Had to put some silly-astic around a couple on my last diesel and it worked a treat
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AnswerID: 208090   Submitted: Friday, Dec 01, 2006 at 23:20

Willem replied:

Hey Bill

Maybe just put some tape around it for starters and see if there is a big difference in performance. If after a while you still want to go ahead to block the holes get some grommets as Blaze said. Too easy

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AnswerID: 208180   Submitted: Saturday, Dec 02, 2006 at 16:07

Gajm replied:

Hey Roachie, I would cut the 50mm coin size circles but glue them to bigger pieces with maybe a 15mm overlap, kinda like you would do when fixing a large hole in plaster. If you cant get to behind the holes to fix them in place. you could just make the behind piece wider but the same 50mm height and use a long screw in the centre and front of your repair piece, to move it and hold it in place and then unscrew it and fill that small hole.

I don't know if that makes sense to you, but it gives you a bit to glue to, and keeps the original holes fairly level with the rest of the snorkel, which you could then run black silastic around to add another seal and neaten it up.

As for glue I have used a product called ACRIFIX 192. It bonds incredibly well but that is to perspex and acrylics. It also sets like rock when it drips onto the bench so it maybe ok for the snorkel plastic. But I can't say for sure. I would ring somewhere like Victorian mob, Plastics for Industry 03 9706 3077 and ask them.

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AnswerID: 208240   Submitted: Saturday, Dec 02, 2006 at 20:57

Des Lexic replied:

Geez your a menace. Plastic Welding can be done by most motor cycle repair places. Check with your local plummer too. I think you can buy a rainwater tank repair plug that involves tightening up a screw to secure it in position. I think that with the rubber grommets, they could fall out at innapropriate times. LOL
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FollowupID: 468171   Submitted: Saturday, Dec 02, 2006 at 21:10

Member - Roachie (SA) posted:

Okay mate.....looking forward to it, but maybe still driving old faithful as the leccy work is still progressing at snail's pace on the Chev. I have the rear camera on and working as well as the HID inserts and had to re-wire the Lightforce XGT's that were already on it (but had been wired by some blokes 6 year old kiddy).

Need to put a Britax 12 pin trailer plug on the back for the camper trailer and not sure whether I'll get that done by next weekend.

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AnswerID: 208248   Submitted: Saturday, Dec 02, 2006 at 21:46

Member - DOZER replied:

The plastic bungs in the top of caravan water tanks?? or something similar....

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AnswerID: 208257   Submitted: Saturday, Dec 02, 2006 at 22:56

Member - Duncs replied:

This new toy sure is proving fun already eh Roachie!

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