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KMart & Exide Extreme - Way to go!

Submitted: Monday, Jan 01, 2007 at 21:02

Phil P

Happy new year to all!

Just a bit of trivia. My second battery died in my dual battery setup (ARB in a GU Patrol) just as we were heading off for a weekend away. The last thing I needed.

Got back and found my receipt, the Battery was 20 months old. The only thing it's used for is a Engel 40L fridge.

Returned it to Kmart today, got a brand new battery plus a $15 refund??

Great Service!

Regards
Phil P

PS: The battery is an Exide Extreme!

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AnswerID: 212813   Submitted: Tuesday, Jan 02, 2007 at 02:44

Member - Jeff H (QLD) replied:

Engels are good eh. hahahahahahahahah
(Ahem: sorry Gramps;breached copythingo.) JH.

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AnswerID: 212827   Submitted: Tuesday, Jan 02, 2007 at 08:32

Member - Phil G (SA) replied:

#1 Decent batteries come with 24months replacement warranty. AFAIK None of the flash AGMs come with any more than 12 months. Also the wet cell deep cycle batteries only come with 6months. Its a good reason to get the Exide extreme or Yuasa Overlanders.

#2 Kmart don't know batteries so don't ask a heap of questions.

#3 $15 refund as well??? It must be Xmas!
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AnswerID: 212838   Submitted: Tuesday, Jan 02, 2007 at 10:53

Mainey (WA) replied:

Exide don't specify their "Extreme" as a Deep Cycle storage battery, but as a Passenger vehicle Cranking battery, as stated on their own web page....

Link: Site Link

Maybe that's why it 'died' as you have posted.
All fridge manufacturers will advise you to use a Deep Cycle battery to run a fridge.
Sure, you can run a fridge off an Extreme but you can also run a fridge from a motor bike battery too... However a decent Deep Cycle battery will last much longer, and be more efficient also, that's called reliability.

Exide DO make specific Deep Cycle storage batteries ...
they are labelled as "Endurance" Deep Cycle batteries

Link: Site Link


My Delkor Deep Cycle (DC27) battery was 4 1/2 years old when I replaced it with an AGM battery

That same 4 1/2 yo Delkor Deep Cycle battery is now my 'new' starter battery !!!
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FollowupID: 473133   Submitted: Tuesday, Jan 02, 2007 at 21:41

joc45 posted:

Geez, with 4 1/2 years from a Delkor, I'd have bought another as a replacement and forget the AGM!!!
Gerry
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FollowupID: 473150   Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 03, 2007 at 00:18

Mainey (WA) posted:

Gerry,
I was getting to the point of needing a new Cranking battery, the Yuasha Overlander was getting 'sluggish' as it was getting past 4 years old, and as I was going north for the winter I bought two new AGM's simply because they are technically superior to normal Deep Cycle batteries, (of any brand) and put one of my Delkor DC's into the cradle as the Starter battery & gave the other away.

The Delkor's take a while to charge fully, but they also take a while to discharge too, where the AGM's recharge very fast, discharge very slow and will outlast many Delkors and even many many more Extremes in the same situation, lol

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FollowupID: 473231   Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 03, 2007 at 11:14

joc45 posted:

Hi Mainey,
Yeh, I agree that the AGMs are good, but in my experience, even the best can be killed through just one misadventure. I've heard of AGMs being killed after being inadvertantly fully-discharged. I've always looked after my batteries, but I lost an expensive Trojan (well it died after two years, which was the warranty period) with no misadventure, two batteries died coz the bimbo staying at our place disconnected the float charger while we were away on an extended holiday, the list goes on. Nowadays, I buy a $100 second battery and replace it every two years. If it falls over prematurely, no big issue.
But I dream of the sort of life you got from yours! Well done!
Gerry
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FollowupID: 473236   Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 03, 2007 at 11:40

Mainey (WA) posted:

joc, yeah, any, repeat any, battery can be "killed through just one misadventure" and if you don't recharge them fully then they will die of sulphation guaranteed.
My major benefit is my Deep Cycle batteries are charged by 200+watts of solar power 24/7 so they are never undercharged, I don't recall them ever registering under 11v with the fridge and lights running even at night, because they are fully charged when the sun goes down by the solar system, and in the morning these new AGM's are still showing 12.7v at sunrise b4 the solar kicks in again and after running the fridge and lights for the night.

During the day with the fridge running the solar system is still putting more power into the battery than the fridge and accessories are taking out, so the batteries are 'almost' allways being charged (except at night)

When I camp for extended periods not using the vehicle I also add the 'Cranking' battery into the charging system so it's getting charged by the solar also, and yes it's also then part of the power system for all the accessories.
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AnswerID: 212872   Submitted: Tuesday, Jan 02, 2007 at 15:55

ooze replied:

sweet as!
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AnswerID: 212989   Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 03, 2007 at 09:11

Member - Arkay (SA) replied:

We have a deep cycle dual battery system fitted. The fitting people told us at the outset that a deep cycle battery is designed to work, not just sit. The problem they said with 4WD drivers is that they often only use the deep cycle battery for their fridges once or twice a year, which may stuff the battery through lack of use. He said the shot is to put a load on the deep cycle battery overnight at least once a month, then recharge it by normal running the next day. That is what we have done. Fortunately because of this or just through good luck we have not had a problem.
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FollowupID: 473238   Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 03, 2007 at 11:47

Mainey (WA) posted:

Arkay, you were lucky you had your DC battery installed by someone who gave you the correct information. :)
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AnswerID: 213056   Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 03, 2007 at 16:02

billv replied:

Away from the point of course, but frequent references to Delkor DC27 (which I use and find very good) brings me to ask - at what voltage (per meter) does the DC27 light change from green? And what is the maximum voltage the DC27 should be charged to?
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FollowupID: 473419   Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 03, 2007 at 23:36

Mainey (WA) posted:

I've never had any colour other than green showing....

I used to charge mine @ 14.4v from the alternator and 13.8v up to 15.4v (boost) from the solar regulator when camped.

Delkor recomend 14.5v as the charging voltage from memory
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AnswerID: 213175   Submitted: Thursday, Jan 04, 2007 at 09:02

billv replied:

Thanks Mainey. Strange that the DC27 only shows green no matter what the state of charge. Do you know what Delkor says is the maximum (fully charged) voltage?
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