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Submitted: Friday, Feb 02, 2007 at 10:33

Truckster (Vic)

"if they can't get in touch with the grandkids each day or jump on the internet and research the next place they're going, they're simply not going to go to that place," Mr Maguire said."

What a load of Crap

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Birdsville Races risk extinction
February 2, 2007 - 11:04AM

Failure to install broadband in remote Australia could signal the demise of iconic events like the Birdsville Races, an event organiser has warned.

Ray Maguire, an event producer based on the Gold Coast, said his industry experience was that people were becoming less likely to visit a destination if they were unable to easily access the outside world while they were there.

"I have spoken to people at events like the Gympie Muster and Tamworth (Country Music Festival) and if they can't get in touch with the grandkids each day or jump on the internet and research the next place they're going, they're simply not going to go to that place," Mr Maguire said.

"It's also important for sponsors of events to be able to stream coverage to the outside world.

"Birdsville needs broadband, or events like the races could be finished."

Mr Maguire addressed the Birdsville community during a visit by Telstra executives to the remote south-western corner of Queensland.

The executives discussed the telecommunications needs of residents during a two-day trip that also took them to Bedourie, which is still hemmed in by recent floodwaters, and Hebel on the NSW-Queensland border.

Telstra is currently pushing the federal government for $600 million in funding available under the Broadband Connect program to extend infrastructure that would deliver high-speed fixed ADSL internet access to remote communities.

"Telstra's broadband proposal is the largest geographical fixed broadband development in Australian history that would expand broadband to about 95 per cent of the population," Telstra public policy managing director Phil Burgess said.

Telstra Countrywide executive director Don Pinel said the proposition would end the "digital divide" for many communities.

"If our bid is successful more than 350km of optical fibre will be installed between the townships of Boulia and Birdsville at a cost of more than $7 million to provide the necessary infrastructure to provide fixed broadband services to the town," he said.

"One of the biggest benefits of our proposal would be the ability to provide secure and affordable video conferencing so that many more people living in remote areas like Birdsville could have access to the best health and education services available."

Residents in Birdsville and Bedourie have pledged their support for the proposal and federal MP for Maranoa Bruce Scott has promised to take letters and petitions from the communities to Canberra when parliament resumes
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AnswerID: 219191   Submitted: Friday, Feb 02, 2007 at 10:45

Footloose replied:

"Ray Maguire, an event producer based on the Gold Coast"....that says it all, really. Talk about spin !
Ray would like to see the Birdsville races as just another theme park by the sounds of it.
I'm not saying that remote communities shouldn't have access to adequate communications, far from it. I've made phone calls from there in the 80's where I had to talk to my wife in radio phonetics because of interference on their radio link.

This sort of absolute rubbish isn't going to help it happen.
How convenient for Ray to be in Birdsville at the same time as the Telstra team. Cynical ? You betcha !
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AnswerID: 219192   Submitted: Friday, Feb 02, 2007 at 10:48

Member - Oldplodder (QLD) replied:

Keep up the info.

I need to know these places without such mod cons as internet.
Because I want to go there!

Thats why we travel to those places, to get away from it.

But then this is a different crowd we are talking about here.
Like a couple of friends, they won't go anywhere unless it is 4 or 5 star accomadation. They think we are crazy travelling by car down dirt roads when you can fly.
I am not letting on, havn't said a thing about the magic of camping out in the west with just the two of us there. :o)

The times we have been to Birdsville is when the races are not on, too many people and too many cars on the road with the races.

Now it would be useful to the locals though.

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FollowupID: 479749   Submitted: Friday, Feb 02, 2007 at 12:40

Member - Barry M (NSW) posted:

I'm with you, mate, let the locals have broadband & a decent phone service by all
means, but I dont want or need such things when on a camping trip. The mobile will work out of the larger centres anyway. But be careful, I have already been labelled "minimalist" on this forum because I dont take bullbars,epirps, waecengles,
gps, sat phones & a heap of other "neccessities" either. So what would I know?
Always got home though :0))....oldbaz.
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FollowupID: 479814   Submitted: Friday, Feb 02, 2007 at 16:32

Truckster (Vic) posted:

> Thats why we travel to those places, to get away from it.

Couldnt agree more...
Its like people who have to have microwave ovens, TV's Video's generators and all sorts of crap.. they may as well go to a motel.

Do they really think people would bypass BIRDSVILLE cause they dont have broadband?? LMAO this bloke lives with his head up wedged up his fuggin arse.

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AnswerID: 219193   Submitted: Friday, Feb 02, 2007 at 10:50

Member - bushfix replied:

was just about to post this too.

my initial thoughts wrt to the maguire statements....

"what a crock" the first race meeting there was held in 1882 I believe. Surely the event and society has not gone so far as to need broadband to survive?! Is the event's name being used in collusion :) to get some govt funding?!

telco service is one thing but unfortunately, the greed and politics of urban society is being brought closer and closer to rural communities.

anyway, what I reckon, it made my skin crawl.

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FollowupID: 479815   Submitted: Friday, Feb 02, 2007 at 16:34

Truckster (Vic) posted:

>Surely the event and society has not gone so far as to need broadband to survive?!

*applause*
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AnswerID: 219226   Submitted: Friday, Feb 02, 2007 at 12:43

Utemad replied:

Can't say I've been to Birdsville but I have been to Tamworth and I work near Gympie. I think it is funny that someone from the Gold Coast thinks of those three towns as similar. I guess really to consider updating my comms equipment for my 2hr drive between Brisbane and Gympie.
I guess everything outside of the Gold Coast and maybe Brisbane is remote for him :-)
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AnswerID: 219227   Submitted: Friday, Feb 02, 2007 at 12:45

Camoco replied:

I may be missing the technical point here but....

The simple solution would be satellite would it not? They don't care where you are on the face of it do they?
Maybe it's not as simple as that, but so long as the locals that need it get it, the rest of us can just live without it for a while can't we.
I have never been to the races there while they have been on (by choice) but Birdsville is an iconic place to visit as it is. Part of the charm is the same for most of the outback, it's nice and different.

Emergencies and local inhabitants should take priority but really we should try and keep technology on holidays while we are.
Oops, it seems I may be preaching to the converted. Let's hope Mr Maguire reads these threads while he is spending so much precious time on the internet.

Cheers Cam
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AnswerID: 219230   Submitted: Friday, Feb 02, 2007 at 12:47

Member - Howard (ACT) replied:

Last couple of times I was in Birdsville I had no problem contacting the rest of the country from the phonebox on the corner.
from memory its even a push button job not a rotary dial so shouldnt be to hard for someone who can type on a computer.
There is also internet access available inthe town so I would hardly call Birdsville remote as far as communications go.
cheers
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FollowupID: 479796   Submitted: Friday, Feb 02, 2007 at 14:53

Member - Oldplodder (QLD) posted:

Thats right. No mobile, but the phone box on the corner opposite the pub.
And a good library with internet access.
Agree with you, not as remote as it seems, except at the moment with the creek up!

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AnswerID: 219288   Submitted: Friday, Feb 02, 2007 at 16:02

Shawsie (Bris) replied:

Birdsville already has broadband!
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AnswerID: 219394   Submitted: Saturday, Feb 03, 2007 at 02:19

Dave & Shelley (NT) replied:

I go camping around and touring Australia to "get away from it all" not "go away from home to surf the net and do all the stuff I do at home". Next thing, some people will want a Macca's at Mitchell Falls, and a carlovers at Wilpena Pound. I am with Truckster, "what a load of crap" !!!!
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AnswerID: 219529   Submitted: Saturday, Feb 03, 2007 at 19:58

Red One replied:

must have been egg in the phone

Seen it before
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