Member - Blue (VIC) posted:

Got a friend who's learning with an instructor at the moment...
1. Hold clutch down at the lights, this is for safety reasons... If in gear with clutch depressed, you are ready to make a move if something untoward occurs...

2. DO NOT gear down when slowing, allow vehicle to slow until the engine begins to labour then clutch it, keep clutch depressed until the vehicle has come to a complete stop, if at an intersection select 1st gear and leave foot on the clutch(see 1)

This is what the RACV is teaching.

Member - Axle posted:

Ya got more patience than me mate!!, went 2ks with my young one chat myself and bailed out. That was a daughter though!.

Cheers.

Member - Blue (VIC) posted:

Sorry Roachie, thought I hit reply, not follow-up...

ZukScooterX90 (QLD)Member posted:

Blue do those rules apply when you come to a corner to go around right or left turn sounds a bit daft to me.
There was an article in our RACQ book last edition.A member wrote in about one of her kids learning to drive with one of the D.schools up here & he/she instuctor told the student not to book in again till they learned to drive.(what on earth do they expect a licenced drive to teach.!!!!!!!!!!
Bob.

Member - Blue (VIC) posted:

Hi Bob, well I just spoke to him... slow for corner, when engine begins to labour, select the correct gear for the corner and continue on...

Also, in an emergency, always depress the clutch pedal simultaneously with the brake. I was taught the opposite, brake hard depress clutch as necessary or at the last minute to avoid a stall/to continue after the incident

I got monkey slapped for not gearing down once when I was learning... I nearly stacked the rover... Stupid army instructor...

Kumunara (NT) posted:

Blue

I would get another driving instructor.

I have done a defensive driving course, advanced driving course, pursuit driving course, 4WD course and 4WD truck course. All with recognised instructors through a Government Department.

What you are quoting from the driving instructor is contrary to what I have been taught.

Member - Blue (VIC) posted:

Kumunara,

it's the opposite to everything I was taught too... I've done a similar array of courses as yourself, through the Army. Talking about this very topic this morning at work and the few blokes here who have "L" aged kids are simply astounded by how things have changed... They are struggling to come to grips with filling the blanks with their kids training(driving the family car between professional lessons) as the kids are correcting all the 'taught' mistakes their dads are making...

There's no "10 to 2" with the steering anymore either, just hold the wheel the way you are most comfortable...

"What you are quoting from the driving instructor " is allegedly what they are given in black and white to study between lessons, part of a 'learners pack'... I haven't seen it with my own eyes but it is appearing to be/becoming the norm as I speak to more people.

My kids will be taught to drive the way I was, as they will start young, they should be quite proficient by the time they sit for their license and hopefully they can adapt to what the instructor wants in order to pass the test. They will do a defensive drivers course, be able to reverse with their mirrors and back a trailer before I let them on the road.

Member - Davoe (Nullagine) posted:

Blue with emergency braking i was taught brake (cadence braking) and concentrate on stopping and stopping only. if you are performing an emergency brake you wont be thinking of clutch and you probably will stall which is pretty unimportant if you avoid a little kid on a bike

Member - Blue (VIC) posted:

I agree Davoe, it's not what's being taught though, apparently...

Muddy doe (SA) posted:

yep, what he said!

Never replaced a clutch either.

Muddy

gav99x posted:

I'm 31yo and learnt exactly that from my father when I learned to drive, especially the keeping the wheels straight ahead rule.

Member - Blue (VIC) posted:

I was taught to drive the 13 speed RR to military timing... one----two-three----one, one----two-three----one... Clutching all the way, clutch is for starting these days...

V8Diesel posted:

Used to drive Road Rangers for a living, both 13 speed OD box and a 15 speed deep reduction as well as a Mack 12 speed.

Clutch was used to take off, that was it. When coming to a stop just knock it out at the last possible moment. Never had a problem with the big Cummins or Mack motors, but when I drove a quiet Isuzu I couldn't get it right. No noise so no brain tacho I guess.

Member - Blue (VIC) posted:

LOL.. we complain about the noise but the noise is everything... Can't shift right without it... takes a moment to get it right even coming from cummins to cat... My first 15 speed RR was a steep learning curve... I call them the round-the-corner box...

Member - Axle posted:

Sam, Slipping it out of gear & angel gliding is better than letting it coast with your foot on the clutch!!, like i wittnessed.

Axle.