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Submitted: Saturday, Mar 03, 2007 at 12:36

jdpatrol

Well you would think I could answer this from previous posts but I went through lots and can’t really get the answers I am after.

We are ‘doin the Simpson’ in April - from/to Adelaide, up Oodnadatta Track and back along the Strez. We have reasonable water storage on board, and from previous trips have good knowledge of our water consumption.

What I wanted to know was where we can top up with water along the way. Also is water you top up with drinkable. From website looks like you can buy water (spring water ?) at Mt Dare.

Any information much appreciated. Thanks JD
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AnswerID: 225077   Submitted: Saturday, Mar 03, 2007 at 13:08

Andrew from Vivid Adventures replied:

You'd want to check with Mt Dare first - spring water? I think more likely bore water that is drinkable as I recall.

But Mt. Dare would not be far into your journey would it (depending on your route)? There is really nothing in the desert itself that is drinkable - Purni Bore and Dalhousie have water, but I don't think it is potable.

The real question is what your plans are out there - how fast a trip are you making; how many people; your water use habits re washing etc.

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FollowupID: 486029   Submitted: Saturday, Mar 03, 2007 at 13:20

jdpatrol posted:

Hi Andrew
There will be 2 adults/2 kids. We plan on 4l/person/day. This is low but we have been acheiving 1.5l/person/day on previous trips - we pre-cook meals and so on.

We are planning a fairly typical west to east trip. Will go through Oodnadatta, and mt Dare if needed for water. Route we're thinking about is French line, WAA line, Knolls, QAA, Birdsville, Walkers Crossing if its open, Innaminka, Moomba, Leigh Creek.

Regards JD
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FollowupID: 486033   Submitted: Saturday, Mar 03, 2007 at 13:37

Willem posted:

Hmmm Andrew and JD

I found a soak last year about 90km north-northeast from Erabena Airstrip. T'was greenish but would have had to dig for water....LOL. And it was a bit of a hard drive to get there.

The last water collection point(good bore water) is a few kilometres before you get to Dalhousie. It is on your right and signposted. After that there is no drinkable water until Birdsville. Dalhousie and Purni are hot artesian waters with a high sulfur content.

I normally carry 100lts water when I go on treks, regardless of remoteness.

I hope you are well prepared for very soft sand as April is very early in the season. About 90% of the dune crests on the French Line had one to two metres of blown sand covering the track at the end of April in 2006. We didnt get bogged but some other travellers had minor dramas.

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FollowupID: 486041   Submitted: Saturday, Mar 03, 2007 at 14:47

jdpatrol posted:

thanks Willem
that's interesting about the sand too. I was in two minds about that as Vic school hol's finish before ours (SA) and NSW start a week earlier so thought a bit of traffic might come through before us, which might help??. Can't wait regardless! JD
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AnswerID: 225079   Submitted: Saturday, Mar 03, 2007 at 13:12

prado-wolf replied:

Yes mate is a bit dry out there. We top up in Birdsville and then again in Mt. Dare but in emergencies i suppose you could consider Purie Bore maybe and there is fresh tank/rainwater in Dalhausie Springs.

Have a nice trip.
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FollowupID: 486030   Submitted: Saturday, Mar 03, 2007 at 13:25

jdpatrol posted:

thanks prado-wolf
What sought of water available (and from who) at Birdsville? JD
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FollowupID: 486038   Submitted: Saturday, Mar 03, 2007 at 14:00

prado-wolf posted:

contra to some other people i can confirm that Dalhausie has tanks and if it rains , the water is very good and we filled up several times there. Birdsville has tabs at the pub , the information center if i remember correctly and the servos also have tabs and the water was good enough for me to drink.

B.r.
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FollowupID: 486047   Submitted: Saturday, Mar 03, 2007 at 16:43

navaraman posted:

I filled up with tap water at Birdsville servo and used that for washing etc and kept the filtered water for drinking and cooking purposes. That was travelling the reverse route to your trip. I carried 70L in jerries plus 30L in boxes from the servo which was more than enough for me and 2 kids. We normally use less than 2L/person/day but always carry more just in case.
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AnswerID: 225100   Submitted: Saturday, Mar 03, 2007 at 16:34

lindsay replied:

If at Dalhousie and there is no tank water, head up to where the water comes out of the ground, takes a bit of finding. You can get good water and after it cools it is very drinkable. Hasn't killed me yet. If the ranger is not there go to the office and around the back there is also a tank. i think April is a bit early,.
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FollowupID: 486046   Submitted: Saturday, Mar 03, 2007 at 16:41

jdpatrol posted:

thanks Lindsay

Yeah, not ideal timing but have to go with school holidays. Actually I wanted to avoid July because of number of cars up there. Some people have said that with rain earlier in year area should be pretty speccy. We'll see. JD
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AnswerID: 225215   Submitted: Sunday, Mar 04, 2007 at 13:06

jonsal7 replied:

Hi jdpatrol,
approx 9 kms from Dalhousie on the Mt Dare road there is beautiful drinkable bore water at 3 o'clock creek spring. It is signposted. This was a couple of years ago so I don't think things have changed that much. Got the little icon with the cup of water on the side of the pipe. We have always done east-west crossings so have had to be carrying enough to get across the desert, but 3 o'clock is good to fill up with to continue the journey. Hope this info helps.
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AnswerID: 225218   Submitted: Sunday, Mar 04, 2007 at 13:33

lindsay replied:

3 oclock spring water does not taste as good as the water from the outlet of the spring at dalhousie.
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