Canvas tents - what's the big deal
Submitted: Thursday, Mar 08, 2007 at 13:42
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Dustin
Can someone please tell me what I am missing here?
We bought a canvas tent, single centre pole, 3m x 3m tent. While it does the job I am not convinced it is the best material for a tent but I think I must be overlooking some huge fact because so many on here sware by them.
Canvas is heavy – Nylon is light
Canvas rips easy – Many Nylon tents has rip stop now.
Canvas needs to be dry before packing – you can get away with packing up a damp nylon tent.
Canvas is very bulky – nylon packs away nice and small. Seeing that space in the 4by is a premium I see that is a huge disadvantage for canvas.
If you touch the sides on a Canvas tent during a downpour the rain comes in, that doesn’t happen with Nylon.
Canvas tents are expensive and nylon one can be cheaper but not always.
I am not trying to start a war here I am just trying to figure out what I am missing as it seems like we have taken a step back 20 years with our canvas tent.
Reply By: derraux - Thursday, Mar 08, 2007 at 14:22
Thursday, Mar 08, 2007 at 14:22
Dustin
Yes canvas is heavier than nylon but quality canvas will be harder wearing,last longer and breath better.
Quality canvas does not rip easier and yes they do make it in ripcheck aswell.
All tent's will go mouldy if packed away wet.
Qulity canvas tents do not leak when touched from the inside.
Yes quality canvas tents are more expensive you pay for the quality and the fact that quality canvas tents are made in Australia or New Zealand.
Not all canvas is the same.
Derraux
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Follow Up By: HowdyDoody - Friday, Mar 09, 2007 at 12:47
Friday, Mar 09, 2007 at 12:47
Hi Darraux, I agree. We went from a great quality nylon to a Black Wolf - will never go back. It's survived storms and winds that would have had me sh***ing myself in the nylon expecting to wake up floating on the 4by mat.
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Reply By: joc45 - Thursday, Mar 08, 2007 at 15:05
Thursday, Mar 08, 2007 at 15:05
Horses for courses.
When I travel, I don't tow a trailer and put minimum stuff on the roof rack. Therefore I have to utilise interior space to the max. I chose a dome nylon tent because it packs up into a small package, something I couldn't do with an earlier canvas tent.
True, nylon doesn't breathe, but the double-skinned dome tents allow moisture to pass thru the inner lining to the ventilated outer lining, so condensation is not a problem.
Both nylon and canvas can go mouldy when packed up damp. But the nylon does not rot, whereas the cotton does - the nylon just gets smelly. Saw a friend's new canvas tent ruined from rot after just one
camping trip (nobody had warned him about not packing up damp).
True, the nylon is not as durable, but I get about 5 years out of a dome tent, before I see something new I like better and move on and ditch the old. All for a fairly low price.
Single-skinned tents can sometimes have leak issues at the stitched seams, tho on the outer skin of my current dome tent, the stitching is covered with a bonded tape, making the seams totally drip-free.
But I must say, I have used the canvas Oztent, and apart from its considerable size when packed, is a magnificent invention - truly the 30-second tent. But it did drip when it rained.
Gerry
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Reply By: Member - John L G - Thursday, Mar 08, 2007 at 16:43
Thursday, Mar 08, 2007 at 16:43
I have a large 8oz canvas shade/weather awning, long as the truck and 12ft wide, set up on one side of the truck for shade and a 12oz lean to on the other side for sleeping when the weather turns..
They are both about 15 years old now and whilst they cost a bit initially, have never had to have them repaired and for shade of course they're unbeatable, compared to nylon, cutting down not only the UV but the glare.
The other great advantage is that they don't flap around in the breeze like nylon because they have some substance to them.
I have seen the awning gather some serious pools of water overnight in rain and never a leak.
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Reply By: wbsl - Thursday, Mar 08, 2007 at 17:35
Thursday, Mar 08, 2007 at 17:35
I have done a lot of
camping over the past 30 years. For the last 10 I have used a
Southern Cross canvas tent and it is still in a good nick as when I brought it.
Prior to that a tent used to last me about 3 years, the nylon would rot, largely caused by UV damage. The final straw with nylon was buying a new one which didn't last 1 night in a wind storm.
The nylon tents where a combination of cheap and expensive, didn't make a great deal of difference.
Wouldn't hestitate to buy another canvas tent if I ever need to.
Regards Wayne
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Reply By: Bilbo - Thursday, Mar 08, 2007 at 20:03
Thursday, Mar 08, 2007 at 20:03
Never mind all that "ripstop" rubbish 'n all that "it's hotter in summer nonsense" 'n all that "longevity" garbage,,,,,,,,,,,
Try having sex in a nylon tent with a vestige of light in the background and see whos' the talk of town next day - everyone sees what's happening.
Doesn't happen in a canvas tent,,,,,,,,,,,,
;)
Bilbo - "The watchful hobbit"
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Reply By: Dave731 - Thursday, Mar 08, 2007 at 23:51
Thursday, Mar 08, 2007 at 23:51
We have just purchased a canvas centre poll tent....
Main reason for doing so was durability. Both cheap and expensive nylon domes that we have had have been built cheaply - they have all failed during trips and led to much frustration.
We tend to
camp in some pretty exposed areas and always have had trouble with the domes needing a dozen guy ropes out and still then things rip and break away when the wind comes up. Combine that with often
camping on
rock ground and banging in all those tent pegs starts to get frustrating (for me at least!!)
The other thing we found last trip when we were hit with a dust storm was that the dome is perfect for channelled windblown dirt and dust up under the outer fly and in through the mesh netting on the inner tent. Led to 5-10mm of dirt all over everything inside.
Although I haven't had it in to the field yet, the centre pole was so simple to put up and down in the back yard - even first time around.
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