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OT--Girls,cars and Grey hairs

Submitted: Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 15:30

Member - stefan P (NSW)

OT I know but I would love to hear of others stories in regards to taking a young girl car shopping.
My Step daughter had the unpleasant experience of a nasty car crash on Monday gone, in which she wrote off her nice '05 commodore ute. Very sore but ok.
Now comes the fun bit......she decided that she didn't want the burden of a big car loan around her neck so she just wanted a cheap little car around the $4000 mark. Can I come and help her? No worries I say.......Well that was a mistake!!!! Most people will realise that when shopping down the bottom of the market, condition of the car comes first as there is a lot of crap out there with the occasional gem. So I am pulling my hair out as every good one we find is the wrong colour or something trivial like that, and I have to use all my energy to stop her buying that cute 'pink' one which has bits hanging off and thick black paste which I think was once oil!!!
Buying the ute was easy 1 year old 20,000 kms on it like the colour...yep, got the price right, paid for it, no drama's.

NEVER AGAIN!!! Her boyfriend can go next time

Anyone else had the same problem?

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AnswerID: 244391   Submitted: Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 16:03

Member - Doug T (W.A) replied:

Stefan
Yeehaa I'm not the only one then , Been there ....done that... with my Daughter back about 1991, she wanted my opinion for a car, told her a 4cyl , while I was away in the Truck Mum and Daughter off into Moorooka and she got a bloody 6cyl Datsun 240K paid like $5000 for it , I wouldn't have give $1500 for it , bloody salesman seen 2 females and made a killin' damn thing was worn out before she got it.

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FollowupID: 505345   Submitted: Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 17:05

Member - stefan P (NSW) posted:

They love a lone female.....she looked at the one we bought by herself early in the week. $5000 firm he says had 20 calls about it, will go today. 4 Days later we drive away in it for $3750. Slimy buggers!!

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FollowupID: 505372   Submitted: Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 18:03

Member - Dunworkin (WA) posted:

Scenario with my daughters buying cars!!!, our daughters use to love going car hunting with me, (mum), the salesmen would see us walk in the yard, rub his hands together, talk so nice, open the car door and tell us how nice the upholstery is, how clean the car is, only had one owner etc. etc.etc. When he had gone through all that rubbish I would ask what was under the 'bonnet' ha ha ha, answer good, low ks etc then the fun would start, has it had this done? it looks like this is wrong with it???????? would throw the salesman way out and you could get the deal we wanted.

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AnswerID: 244392   Submitted: Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 16:04

Mike Harding replied:

Yes I have and, like you, I'm not in a rush to repeat it.

I think you just have to make it _VERY_ clear to them before you even start looking that they have two choices:

1 - buy the pretty pink one with frilly bits and spend a fortune forever after on repairs until she decides to scrap it.

or

2 - buy the one with the decent mechanicals etc even if it does have fake leopard skin seat covers and is a vomit shade of green and spend the minimum amount possible on a $4k car over the next few years.

Even females must be confronted with the stark logical rationalisation between finance and romantic desire :)

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FollowupID: 505337   Submitted: Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 16:39

Oldsquizzy (Kununurra) posted:

You just wrote the word logical and female in one sentence. Isn't there a law in the english language that forbids it. Bit like a double negative......grin
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FollowupID: 505346   Submitted: Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 17:09

Member - stefan P (NSW) posted:

"Even females must be confronted with the stark logical rationalisation between finance and romantic desire :)"

AHHHH yes....but when you share a house with said female that point is not easily made sometimes......;)

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FollowupID: 505364   Submitted: Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 17:52

Mike Harding posted:

Perhaps you could enlighten her with a quote attributed to Winston Churchill:

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"At a dinner party one night, an inebriated Churchill asked an attractive woman whether she would sleep with him for a million pounds.

“Maybe,” the woman said coyly.

“Would you sleep with me for one pound?” Churchill then asked.

“Of course not, what kind of woman do you think I am?” the woman responded indignantly.

“Madam, we’ve already established what kind of woman you are,” said Churchill, “now we’re just negotiating the price.”
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Mike Harding :)
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FollowupID: 505490   Submitted: Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 21:55

Blaze posted:

Can tell you haven't been shopping with a Young Lady in awhile Mike, "The fake leopard skin seat covers and is a vomit shade of green" would be the top selling point LOL
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AnswerID: 244396   Submitted: Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 16:36

Gerhardp1 replied:

I was lucky with my daughter (4 years ago)- she saw a bubble in a carpark in a deep maroon colour, and decided she wanted one of those, and she wanted to spend $3000.

She came home with the requirement for dad to find one of those - first thing I did was a reality check on the price - $3000 wasn't going to cut it for the popular and bulletproof little thingy.

So I checked online and found one a few ks down the road - asking $5500, 56,000ks, interior perfect, exterior straight, good reg, RIGHT COLOUR, ordered RACV check and all good.

Offered $5000 and this was accepted - the car has now done 112000k, has had a clutch fitted at about 75000k, and I've given it a few oil changes and some new tyres.

The little baby is soon to be traded on a Suzuki Swift as she will finish Uni this year and has landed a good permanent job.

I think the Suzi is a great choice (I sent her to the Melb motor show to look at all the small cars and she liked the Suzi best, the next weekend she turned up in the driveway with a test drive unit ! )

Anyway she heeded my advice to keep the Mazda for another 6 months or so and save what she would have made on payments so she can pay cash when it's time to move.

So there have been no dramas with my daughter and cars.
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FollowupID: 505347   Submitted: Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 17:12

Member - stefan P (NSW) posted:

well done, its got me stuffed really....when she bought her investment unit, she used common sence, logic and made a very smart purchase which will pay off big time in a few years. But there was no emotion in that it was just a purchase. She see's the car a bit different and all ratuional went out the window

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AnswerID: 244400   Submitted: Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 16:51

Motherhen replied:

Having been car shopping with a daughter, it is quite amusing watching the salesmen's bungling attempts to find out if there is a man lurking somewhere, or whether they can just 'rip off these girls'. We walked out of a couple of car yards with our noses in the air when they tried to pull the wool over our eyes. Then we found a car she really wanted and had another salesman still trying to find out about a man (my husband was overseas at the time), so she got her boyfriend and his mates to go and give it the once over. She got this car, but the battery failed when we got it home. We went back, and while the salesman was arguing no responsibility, i commented that i had set a trend buying a car for the first of my 4 children. His eyes lit up and he raced off to 'talk to the boss' and give us a new battery quick as a flash.

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FollowupID: 505344   Submitted: Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 17:03

Gerhardp1 posted:

Sounds like you have to sack the boyfriend and the mates - if they couldn't tell the battery was a dud, what else did they miss?
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FollowupID: 505351   Submitted: Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 17:16

Member - stefan P (NSW) posted:

I have had a battery die just like that, quite common these days. Starts fine...5 mins later NOTHING dead as.

Stefan

Yes Motherhen the threat of taking return business else where can be quite effective sometimes ;)

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FollowupID: 505369   Submitted: Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 18:01

Motherhen posted:

Battery operated fine for a while (maybe a few weeks or so). Yes, they do die suddenly. Car ran fine until she crashed it a year or so later!
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AnswerID: 244453   Submitted: Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 19:16

Des Lexic replied:

I still have a good chuckle about this women I knew through work who had bought this little pinky coloured car. She was wrapped with it until I told her the name that blokes had given that pink. Dog D i c k Pink.
She coulsn't wait to sell it afterwards.
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FollowupID: 505465   Submitted: Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 21:21

Member - stefan P (NSW) posted:

"Dog D i c k Pink."

Thats a classic!! lol
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FollowupID: 505494   Submitted: Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 22:05

Blaze posted:

Well Des you sound like you are an expert in the colour tones of Dogs Dicks, I will have to tell Chase to hide the next time you are over...
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AnswerID: 244500   Submitted: Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 21:08

Member - extfilm (NSW) replied:

Stefan,
Had a classic a few months ago.
My stepdad's cousin had a mate come over from Ireland..... We got talking about Australia travelling and he told me he was going to buy a van to take around Oz. I said beauty good for you..... A few weeks later it became known I had my mechanics ticket. We were up the club at the time sitting around the table with around 10 people, when the question came up........ But get this it wasn't the standard "If I find a van I like can you come with me to look at it?" I would have obliged with no worries........
But this D Head comes out with in front of everybody. "So, in the next 6 weeks you will drive me around Sydney on sundays to find me a car." No question he asked He told me. My response was "Mate I have one day of a week and the last thing I am going to do is drive you around sydney to find a van for the next 6 weeks."
He found a toyota Tarago for 4500 and knowing tarago's when I was an apprentice I advised him against it and would not have a look at it with him. He only wanted to spend 5000 all up including decking it out for his once in a lifetime experience.
I did a quick search and told him to go for a 4wd mitsu express for 3500 that I had seen in the gosford area....... "Great" he said "When are you going to take me up?" I said to him go and hire a car for $29 and have a look at it first and let me know what you think. "Oh No" he said "I am not spending $29 to hire a car when I have you to take me up".
Dare I say it, I told him no
A few weeks went on and nothing more was said until I heard he bought that tarago. He has now spent over 7k repairing all the faults with it and Karma is coming around to him. If he was more polite I would have been happy to help him with his purchase......
Oh and by the way he has been at my coisins place now for 4 months and leaves for his trip in 10 days........ Only know this as my coisin is counting the days..... He is not invited back at her place upon his return.
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FollowupID: 505467   Submitted: Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 21:24

Member - stefan P (NSW) posted:

thats right, rudeness gets you no where. PLUS if you ask for my help or opinion listen to it!!! It got to the stage where it was like do what the frig you like as I am not the one who has to pay to fix the bloody thing!! ah families ;)

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AnswerID: 244529   Submitted: Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 22:04

Member - Barry (NT) replied:

Yep experience here also, but with a distinct twist.

Took eldest daughter to auction,,, hubby on shift work,,, knew which car she wanted,,,etc etc and I did the bidding,,,

knocked down to us,,, 75 series,,, all OK,,, rings hubby and says does he still want the same car?????

Had to tell she now OWNED it,,, no more talky talky,,, had to laugh though.

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