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Winch Question:New Member Plumy 1 VIC

Submitted: Tuesday, Jul 03, 2007 at 14:41

Member - ron&judi P (VIC)

We are leaving on the 31 of July for a 6 week trip, doing the Oodnadatta,Birdsville, and across to Innaminka Via the Cordillo doad then down the Strzelecki into the Flinders to explore. Can anyone tell us do we need a winch (as a friend has offered the use of one) we have a 91 Patrol and towing an off road trailer. Also the couple that is traveling with us is towing a small van with an off road axel fittered will thay be able to cross these tracks. Thanks for any help given.
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AnswerID: 250501   Submitted: Tuesday, Jul 03, 2007 at 14:51

Member - Roachie (SA) replied:

G'day Ron and Judi,

You won't need a winch on those tracks (unless something goes horribly wrong; like you run off the road and into a muddy verge etc). If the tracks are wet, then they will be closed anyway....they don't want anybody driving on wet tracks out that way, because it stuffs them up big time and takes ages of grader time to get them back up to scratch when they dry out.

The van with the off-road axle sounds interesting......however, more to the point is how much will it weigh and what tyres will it be running? I would suggest A/T tyres as a minimum for any vehicle heading out onto those tracks and it is wise to try and have the wheels/tyres compatible between the trailer/van and the tow vehicle. That way, you potentially have 2 (or 3 maybe?) spare tyres. Also, ensure your tyres are in the first half of their lifespan. Too many people leave home with worn tyres.....saying to themselves "I'm not gunna buy nice new tyres and take them outback only to have them ruined".....etc etc. The plain fact is that worn tyres are MUCH more likely to fail on those sorts of tracks.

Tyre pressures are the other important aspect....Hell , I could go for ages......but there are a few things to consider for a start.

Have a great trip. Preparation is the key to happiness....

Cheers

Roachie

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AnswerID: 250510   Submitted: Tuesday, Jul 03, 2007 at 15:40

Garbutt replied:

Good advice from the Roach. As he says use A/t or tougher tyres, not too much pressure in them and go slowly, you shouldn't have too much trouble. Driving to the conditions is always the key, usually that means much slower than on a bitumen road.

Have a great trip its an interesting part of the country.

GB

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AnswerID: 250545   Submitted: Tuesday, Jul 03, 2007 at 18:15

Bonz (Vic) replied:

Hi ron and judi, thats some great trip you have planned there makes me jealous just thinking about it. Those roads up there are fine without a winch, but one thing I would think about is the clearance under the axle of your trailers. Roads that way are prone to developing a very high apex between the wheel tracks (ruts) and I would want the axle to clear that hump in the middle otherwise it would cause stones to be sent flying everywhere. I reckon maybe 200-250mm under tha axle would clear it.

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AnswerID: 250667   Submitted: Wednesday, Jul 04, 2007 at 09:25

Member - Terry G (NSW) replied:

Hi Ron & Judi
Am I correct in assuming that you intend crossing the Simpson Desert? If so, I would suggest you need a major rethink. I agree with what everyone else has said, provided you are NOT crossing the Simpson. However, if you are, firstly, the small van is a definite NO NO!!! Although people regularly do it, towing an off road camper across the Simpson is not recommended. Unless you know exactly what you are doing you can get into all sorts of strife and, in addition, completely destroy the tracks. I guess from your question that you have not had a great deal of experience in 4wheel driving. That being the case I don't think you should be attempting a Simpson crossing. You don't say where you are intending to start your trip, but, coming from Victoria you will probably intend joining the Oodnadatta Track at Marree. Why not give the Oodnadatta, Simpson part of the trip the flick, and go straight up the Birdsville Track. Still a great trip and less likely to have any problems.

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FollowupID: 511817   Submitted: Wednesday, Jul 04, 2007 at 09:51

Member - ron&judi P (VIC) posted:

The simpson definitly not. we that is Ron and I are starting at coober pedy through to oodnadatta via the painted desert, we have the off road trailer, the other couple are joining us from marree and have the van and yes we are concerned about the van,thats why we asked the question,and yes this is our second trip of this kind,so i guess we are new to 4wheel driving.but rest assure we have done our home work and wont be stupid .but thanks for your comments.
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FollowupID: 511827   Submitted: Wednesday, Jul 04, 2007 at 11:24

Member - Terry G (NSW) posted:

Thats good news. You will have a ball. No problems at all with that itinerary. Sorry I misunderstood your plans. As far as the van is concerned, so long as the road is dry they shouldn't have too many problems. Tell them to expect plenty of stretches of corrugations and possible internal damage to their van that can follow. But that is only inconvenient and can be repaired. Tell them to ensure that everything inside the van is tightly packed and tied down!!!

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FollowupID: 512025   Submitted: Thursday, Jul 05, 2007 at 14:27

Ann 40 posted:

Hi Ron & Judi,
Heading that way ourselves, little later though,middle of August. In time to go to the races.
Really looking forward to it, and certainly hope to have a good safe trip.
To you, and your companions..........Happy Travelling.
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