Danger of filling plastic Jerry cans

How dangerous is it to fill plastic jerry cans with petrol on the roof rack?

Are there problems topping up the tank from plastic jerry cans still on the roof rack with a long plastic hose?

are there problems with static electricity or can they be earthed?

Have seen people doing above and do not know if I should do a runner or stay and help.
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Reply By: Member - Kiwi Kia - Tuesday, Jul 10, 2007 at 21:18

Tuesday, Jul 10, 2007 at 21:18
No more dangerous then filling from cans at ground level. Hot and dry conditions while wearing synthetic clothing used to be conducive to generating a static charge. These days most synthetic materials are treated to disperse any charge before it reaches dangerous levels (both clothes and the can). No harm in taking care, touch the can against the metal of the vehicle away from and before you open the filler cap on both the can and the vehicle.
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Reply By: Shaker - Tuesday, Jul 10, 2007 at 22:51

Tuesday, Jul 10, 2007 at 22:51
The problem may lie with the "long plastic hose", make sure that it rated for use with the type of fuel that you using, normal cheap clear plastic tubing will generate a static charge.
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Reply By: Kev M (NSW) - Wednesday, Jul 11, 2007 at 06:18

Wednesday, Jul 11, 2007 at 06:18
To fill the jerries at a servo most operators will make you take them down and fill them on the ground.

IMO if you maintain contact with the syphon hose and the ground when refuelling from the jerries to the main tank then there should be no static issues.

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Reply By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Wednesday, Jul 11, 2007 at 07:46

Wednesday, Jul 11, 2007 at 07:46
I usually fill my tank before filling the jerries on the rack.

That way contact has been made between the hose and vehicle already in case of static.
The rack is metal, so should earth to the vehicle.

If the jerries are on the rack, I don't get a full 20 litres though. maybe 18, since I have them on their back to reduce height and with the opening to the back for access.
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Reply By: Col88 - Wednesday, Jul 11, 2007 at 13:13

Wednesday, Jul 11, 2007 at 13:13
Any service station attendant worth anything should be turning your pump off for doing this.
If there is a problem you have a fire that is on top of your vehicle with fuel pouring everywhere. You can burn your car if you like, just not in a servo:-)

They don't have a problem with the static issue, it is plain unsafe. Just like sitting on a motorbike while refuelling, if something happens you are hampered in your escape by getting off, shoe laces caught on pegs etc.
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Follow Up By: Diver1 - Wednesday, Jul 11, 2007 at 15:34

Wednesday, Jul 11, 2007 at 15:34
Ive stopped pumps on people because of this - whether its dangerous or not - because thats what @#$%^X (not saying name...) tell me to do so i do it.....that way i may be abused to pieces but i cannt be sued!!

Do as the signs say....

Laura

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Reply By: Member - Kim M (VIC) - Wednesday, Jul 11, 2007 at 20:17

Wednesday, Jul 11, 2007 at 20:17
pling

I worked in the petroleum industry for quite a few years and was constantly under pressure to deliver safety training, particularly in the handling of fuel.

Before I respond to your question, it would be helpful if you told us which product your referring to (Diesel or ULP).

If its the latter, here are my recommendations:

1. Touch the outside surface of the car, then remove the container from the roof rack. If the container has been in the sun for an extended period (and bloated with fumes) vent it well away from the car.

2. When filling the main tank, ensure the nozzle is in contact with the car.

In doing these couple of simple things you will reduce the cause of most explosions and fires.

Regards

Kim
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Follow Up By: pling - Thursday, Jul 12, 2007 at 11:00

Thursday, Jul 12, 2007 at 11:00
kim,

Thanks for the comment.

I did say in the first line that I was refering to Petrol.

Again thanks to yourself and others for the advice.
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