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Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 01, 2007 at 03:26

graemejohn

Intend to travel the Holland track mid August, has anyone been along recently or know what the track is like if there has been any rain on it .Is it worth doing the track from Broomehill or just from Hyden.Be a group of Four cars and we have 5 days so plenty of time i think.
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AnswerID: 255305   Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 01, 2007 at 04:48

Member - Andy A (WA) replied:

we have travelled the track last March from Victoria Rock to Emu Rock on our own
for a second time.
Travelling down to the intersection with the Mount Barker Day track
was very pleasant but south of it large areas were burnt out.The track is carved
up and has many large and deep holes. I certainly would not like to be there after
some rain - we were disappointed. Victoria Rock and Emu Rock are nice places
though. The track down to Broomehill consists mainly of wide dirt roads.
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AnswerID: 255315   Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 01, 2007 at 09:01

MAVERICK(WA) replied:

5 days may be insufficient - give the police at coolgardie (or toyota l'cruiser club) a call as much rain has fallen over that area. the middle of the track is in an enormous 'bowl' and the water tends to flow in and settle for a while. usually the long weekend in oct is the 'start' of the holland track season and best to be 2nd or 3rd group through to allow for others to clear the track of overgrown bush. if you have the time do the whole lot from broomehill through to coolgardie - soak in a bit of history. there is a good book available from westprint (and I expect this site) on the history. have good time and beware of head on meetings with others. rgds

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AnswerID: 255362   Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 01, 2007 at 17:00

Motherhen replied:

We are planning to head up the Holland Track mid September. We'll probably pick it up past Lake Grace, as prior to that much of it is just rural roads following roughly the route and passing a few features. We have purchased the booklet from the ExplorOz bookshop. An interesting read about the history. I hope 4 -5 days will be enough to get through this part of the track. Will probably return via the Woodlines; also in the book.
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AnswerID: 255557   Submitted: Thursday, Aug 02, 2007 at 21:50

WA 1968 replied:

Hi guys, we did the Holland Track in October last year. We decided to do it from the start @ Broomehill. More for historical purposes than anything. We left Saturday morning and camped Emu Rocks the first night. We unfortunately only had three days and were going to camp at Sandlewood Rocks the next night. But decided to push through the Holland Track Centenary Log and then go south the Hyden - Norseman road and camped at the Breakaways. Wish we had more time to do the trip. Have known people to do the trip comfortably in 5 days.

Would definately check track conditions as even in October we came across significantly boggy arears.

Ash
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FollowupID: 517461   Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 08, 2007 at 15:53

Motherhen posted:

Hi Ash

I am surprised there were wet patches as late as October last year, particularly when it was such a dry winter and drier spring. Did having only three days mean long days driving? Where were the boggy areas you encountered?

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FollowupID: 517625   Submitted: Thursday, Aug 09, 2007 at 13:25

WA 1968 posted:

Motherhen,

Yeah they had some rains out that way about 2 weeks before we went through. Yes there was some areas that were quite badly rutted and filled with water still. Worse was that is started raining in between camp spots and were thinking we were not going to get through if the rain persisted. Lucky for us it didnt.

In answer to your other question, yes having only three days meant we were on the road a fair bit, but we were also Geocaching along the way, which meant regular stops.
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AnswerID: 255713   Submitted: Friday, Aug 03, 2007 at 18:47

Member - graeme W (WA) replied:

Thanks to all who replied looks like we might have to go some where else and do the track a bit later.

Graeme
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FollowupID: 516899   Submitted: Friday, Aug 03, 2007 at 23:27

Member - Davoe (Nullagine) posted:

Plenty of other tracks in the goldfields as good or better
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FollowupID: 517459   Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 08, 2007 at 15:39

Motherhen posted:

Hi Davoe - I know you are very familiar with the area. If we go through the Woodlines as an alternative to the Coolgardie end of the Holland Track, would this be wide enough for our F250? I note from the booklet that some of this track is along the tram/train lines, and wondered about our wider wheel width.

This thread has also alerted me to the fact that we may be a bit early in the season to get through easily. I thought it had been a fairly dry year inland, but who knows what will happen between now and mid September.

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FollowupID: 517544   Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 08, 2007 at 21:20

Member - Davoe (Nullagine) posted:

No worries MH I first did it in my camper which had no problems with width or hight and it waould be as wide as your 250.
the Holland actually hits the victoria rocks road very close to a woodline that will take you to cave hill
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FollowupID: 517557   Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 08, 2007 at 22:05

Motherhen posted:

Thanks Davoe

The wheel base is wider on the F250 than on the Cruisers. Depending on our time frame (and weather conditions), we can go to Coolgardie via the Holland and return via Burra Rock and Cave Hill or vice versa.

I have been reading through the archives on Holland Track, and someone commented that in some places the Track was narrow so that mirrors were knocked off a conventional 4wd, and that it was too narrow for an F250.

Reading this thread, it seems we will be 'early in the season', so we may be wise to take the chainsaw. Because we have a booking Kal, we need a smooth run, and do not have to take the Holland Track or Woodlines, but it is a very different and interesting way for us to go.

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FollowupID: 517578   Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 08, 2007 at 23:50

Member - Davoe (Nullagine) posted:

yea but my old camper was as wide as a normal cruiser tray or a bit wider. Not sure how this compares to an f250 but it should be pretty close.
Nevertheless the woodlines are well used and pretty wide
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FollowupID: 517627   Submitted: Thursday, Aug 09, 2007 at 13:32

WA 1968 posted:

MH,

We actually were following a group of four 4x4's, three of them were towing Camper Trailer. I was amazed as I didnt think you would be able to get those through the area. I now wonder whether anyone has taken a wind up style Camper Trailer on the Holland. I have a Coromal Pioneer PS 451 and since purchasing this have wondered whether is could be towed up the Holland Track as I am interested in doing this from whether the track crosses near the Holland Centenary Log Book through to Coolgardie including the WOodlines.

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FollowupID: 517628   Submitted: Thursday, Aug 09, 2007 at 13:33

WA 1968 posted:

MH,

We actually were following a group of four 4x4's, three of them were towing Camper Trailer. I was amazed as I didnt think you would be able to get those through the area. I now wonder whether anyone has taken a wind up style Camper Trailer on the Holland. I have a Coromal Pioneer PS 451 and since purchasing this have wondered whether is could be towed up the Holland Track as I am interested in doing this from whether the track crosses near the Holland Centenary Log Book through to Coolgardie including the WOodlines.

Ash
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FollowupID: 517724   Submitted: Thursday, Aug 09, 2007 at 23:11

Motherhen posted:

Hi Ash

The book i bought says the route suitable for 2wd and caravans in dry weather! I think a few here would say no way with a caravan (due to overhang, width and winding track). We're leaving ours behind this time. The Woodlines follow the old tram/train tracks, and according to the same book, sides of tracks can be broken away, and detours need to be made where culverts have collapsed. Not caravan territory at all.

Captain (WA) has reported in a couple of threads that he damaged the exterior of his Windsor Rapid, but that a camper trailer would have been OK.

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AnswerID: 256171   Submitted: Monday, Aug 06, 2007 at 23:07

Motherhen replied:

graemejohn

Let me know if you do or don't decide to take the Holland Track. We are planning to go through mid September. I didn't think much rain has got that far inland so far, but am surprised that WA1968 found it wet in October last year, as last year was so dry in the west. I will put a a thread seeking more up to date info before we leave.

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FollowupID: 517786   Submitted: Friday, Aug 10, 2007 at 13:00

Member - graeme W (WA) posted:

Will do ,one of the guys going has done it before towing a wind up camper , coromal i think.We plan to leave on 22 nd august but a chance i wont go now because been in bed 5 days with the flu virus.No wonder people die from it. Are the woodlines another track .

Graeme.
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FollowupID: 517999   Submitted: Saturday, Aug 11, 2007 at 23:45

Motherhen posted:

Hi Graeme

I sympathise with you having the flu. I got it a few weeks ago, and although i felt reasonable after a few days rest, i am still coughing. My boss got it at the same time, and he had his first days of work in his long career. He's a bit kinder to the staff who have days off when they're sick now. Take it easy, and you will be well soon.

The Woodlines can be reached from the Holland Track or from Coolgardie. I purchased the small book "Explore the Holland Track and Cave Hill Woodlines" from the ExplorOz shop. Interesting history, particularly the Woodlines, and it gives route plans and features to see.

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