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patrol power problem

Submitted: Thursday, Aug 02, 2007 at 20:53

gnome

I purchased a 2005 4.2tdi patrol in feb this year,had MTQ in toowoomba do a stage 2 upgrade on it in april.Was very pleased with the results.We recently went on a trip to pormpuraaw on the west side of the cape towing our cape york camper trailer, which weighs around 1400kg fully loaded.I found that to take off on anything more than a slight gradient required grabbing low range. Taking off on flat roads theres no problem and it has no worries pulling up hills or overtaking.All the filters were changed before we left. The wheels are 17" with 285/70 tyres. Any ideas on problem?
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AnswerID: 255546   Submitted: Thursday, Aug 02, 2007 at 21:03

Member - 120scruiser (NSW) replied:

Where the fuel line from the filters goes into the pump there is a little fuel basket/gauze. These can block up. Pull the line off the pump and remove the securing nut to remove the gauze and have a look if its dirty.
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FollowupID: 516827   Submitted: Friday, Aug 03, 2007 at 18:10

gnome posted:

Yeah--- thanks cruiser will check it out!
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AnswerID: 255561   Submitted: Thursday, Aug 02, 2007 at 22:04

lizard replied:

Have a 2006 GU ST cab chassis , got back from atrip north & got ute serviced - asked for the gauze filter in my injector pp to be checked as I lacked power too ....Surprise , on my model this filter has been discontinued , Nissan service even checked to ensure it's not there .... my lack of power was traced to dirty air & fel filters .
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FollowupID: 516829   Submitted: Friday, Aug 03, 2007 at 18:14

gnome posted:

Will be doing an oil and all filters change this weekend so will see if it makes a difference!
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AnswerID: 255580   Submitted: Thursday, Aug 02, 2007 at 23:13

Member - Ed. C. (QLD) replied:

If she's running OK at highway speed (no problem pulling up hills or overtaking) then I very much doubt that there's a fuel problem.. If it were fuel, then it'd be more evident at higher revs (& under load) than taking off at idle...

I think you've answered your own question when you mention wheel/tyre size.. These would be significantly larger (in rolling diameter) than the originally fitted tyres, yes?

By going to larger tyres, you effectively change the final drive ratio (she's higher geared), and that is always going to make it more difficult to "lift off" on an incline, especially when towing, as the turbo is "off boost" at take-off ('till ya get some revs up, that is;-))...

Regards, Ed. C

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FollowupID: 516833   Submitted: Friday, Aug 03, 2007 at 18:21

gnome posted:

Standard wheels and tyres are 275/65 17" so i wouldnt have thought the increase to 285/70 would have made a huge difference, certainly not a significant change.The previous model with 16" wheels still have the same gearing.
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FollowupID: 517183   Submitted: Monday, Aug 06, 2007 at 12:06

Member - 120scruiser (NSW) posted:

Larger wheels make a huge difference.
In my 2005 Prado I take off the 265/65x17 standard tyres and put on 265/70x17 and I notice a difference. I was originally running 265/75x16 tyres and this made a major difference even though I was dropping down an inch in diametre the aspect ratio made the tyre larger.
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AnswerID: 255581   Submitted: Thursday, Aug 02, 2007 at 23:21

babs replied:

hey gnome, I have an 05 4.2TD GUIV I have had the 3" exhaust done I am running the same size tyres I tow a 1T trailer for work and I some times have to engage 4wd on inclines, I have after numerous posts and trips back to Nissan come to accept that with there slightly taller gearing from previous models and bigger wheels that its the gearing not power issue.

Cheers,
Babs.
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FollowupID: 516835   Submitted: Friday, Aug 03, 2007 at 18:24

gnome posted:

Thanks babs, I may have to change ratios if all else fails!!
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AnswerID: 255611   Submitted: Friday, Aug 03, 2007 at 08:31

Member - Wayne N (QLD) replied:

Hey Gnome,
Check your filters, especially air filter. On my trip to the cape, the air filter was well choked by the time we reached Weipa. New filter fixed the problem.

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FollowupID: 516836   Submitted: Friday, Aug 03, 2007 at 18:26

gnome posted:

Yeah, tomorrow !!! Thanks.
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