Travelling with Firearms in WA
Submitted: Wednesday, Sep 19, 2007 at 18:09
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Hairy (NT)
Gday,
We are planning a trip to WA over Christmas and would be keen to hear from any one who lives or travelled over there and carried a gun.
In the NT the rule is keep it under lock and key and have a reasonable reason while it is in your vehicle and know one really cares.
Ive heard WA is pretty strickt on it?????
Cheers
Hairy
Reply By: Member - Kim M (VIC) - Wednesday, Sep 19, 2007 at 19:16
Wednesday, Sep 19, 2007 at 19:16
Gidday Hairy
You need to apply for a permit from the Firearms branch in
Perth.
They'll want to know where your intending to shoot, and contact details of the property owner.
I doubt if they
check with the property owner, but if things go pear shaped, your at risk of loosing the rifle and copping a fine.
If you have any mates in WA who have a good relationship with an owner, request a referral.
The coppers in
Perth are a pretty good bunch, and will have the permit back to you within two weeks.
Regards
Kim
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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Wednesday, Sep 19, 2007 at 19:22
Wednesday, Sep 19, 2007 at 19:22
Gday Kim,
Thanks for that.
Ive got a sister in
Perth so Ill see who she knows.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Smudger - Wednesday, Sep 19, 2007 at 19:54
Wednesday, Sep 19, 2007 at 19:54
Never heard of a permit to carry in WA. My understanding is, you either have a Firearms Permit in your state of residence, or you don't. If you are licensed to own a firearm you can transport your gun anywhere in Australia if you have a reason, IE attending a club shoot, going to a location where you have permission to hunt, taking it to a gunsmith. Some states have different rules on how the gun is to be transported - some require it to be broken down, with bolt and ammo kept separate. If you're going to attend a club shoot, at a SSAA range for instance, contact their state head office and ask their advice on transporting. Pre "National Gun Laws", WA were probably the toughest state on gun ownership and one of the requirements was that if you were crossing the border into WA with a gun, you had to
check the gun in at the first convenient police station, I don't believe that is a requirement any more.
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Follow Up By: Smudger - Wednesday, Sep 19, 2007 at 19:59
Wednesday, Sep 19, 2007 at 19:59
Just had a look at Kim's WA Police link. that's something I've learnt today. I asked the same question about 8 months ago, and here's an answer that i didn't get.
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Follow Up By: Member - Kim M (VIC) - Wednesday, Sep 19, 2007 at 20:33
Wednesday, Sep 19, 2007 at 20:33
Smudger and others
WA has a specific Act that precludes State recognition of other firearms legislation. The Act is described on the SSAA web site.
You must apply for a permit.
I repeat my warning. If found without a permit, you can kiss the gun goodbye!
Regards
Kim
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Reply By: furph - Wednesday, Sep 19, 2007 at 19:57
Wednesday, Sep 19, 2007 at 19:57
G'day Hairy.
We travelled to WA via Qld., NT this year with a couple of licenced firearms. (NSW, A/B).
Because most of my work is in Qld. I have a permit to carry/use in that state. However, there are no signs or any other
information regarding the passage across any state borders in the whole country.
Why, after the uniform gun laws were implemented, should one state differentiate from another? Driver licences are accepted between states, so why not firearms?
So it was with considerable concern that I discovered (in Kalgoorlie) that I should have obtained a permit, that the cops at
Eucla were particularly vigilant, and he (gunshop owner near Woolies) could organise one for $200.
So hid (like really hid) the offending items and proceeded east.
Then, "Bless me", about 20km. west of
Eucla, here is a highway patrol with a VW camper pulled up, going right over it and gear all over the place.
Believe me, I managed to coax another 250 revs. out of the old girl (towing a van), and didn't relax until the SA checkpoint was behind us.
I think what you have heard is fairly spot on, but I don't feel happy about it.
cheers furph
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Follow Up By: Muzzgit [WA] - Wednesday, Sep 19, 2007 at 20:05
Wednesday, Sep 19, 2007 at 20:05
The coppers at
Eucla are pretty keen. I recon if the USA really wanted to find Osama Bin hidin' they should ask these guys to find him.
I once had mates (20 odd years ago) who have tried to hide gunja in all manner of
places (oil containers, spare tyres, inside the chassis) but the coppers at
Eucla have flushed it out.
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Wednesday, Sep 19, 2007 at 20:35
Wednesday, Sep 19, 2007 at 20:35
Like most jurisdictions in the Western world don't the police in WA need "reasonable suspicion" to search a vehicle or person?
Or do they just pick on anyone they feel like - a situation all to common in Oz.
Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Member - Kim M (VIC) - Wednesday, Sep 19, 2007 at 20:55
Wednesday, Sep 19, 2007 at 20:55
Mike
There's nothing wrong with the coppers in
Eucla.
They have a bit of fun pulling the tourists over for a chat.
Does'nt bother me. In most instances during the yarn they've
told me about a few
places I wasn't aware of.
Regards
Kim
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Follow Up By: Muzzgit [WA] - Wednesday, Sep 19, 2007 at 23:56
Wednesday, Sep 19, 2007 at 23:56
Mike, "reasonable suspicion" is just that. I don't like the look of you and your scaly mates and I recon you're hiding drugs in your car! OOPS sorry mate, my mistake!
"Or do they just pick on anyone they feel like - a situation all to common in Oz."
That's how half the drug dealers and paedofiles are caught! Random checks at random times!
You have nothing to worry about if you have done nothing wrong!
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Nullagine) - Thursday, Sep 20, 2007 at 15:37
Thursday, Sep 20, 2007 at 15:37
Nullabor police are really Border patrol probably 80% of Caontraband and criminals/activity that are imported/exported to WA by road go through there.
.......... Which make you wonder why a higher calibre of Boy in blue aint out there
My Mate sitting on a Jury of a Truckie accused of running drugs came to the conclusion the coppers there should have been locked up for shear inability to make even a basic case against the truckie
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Reply By: Willem - Wednesday, Sep 19, 2007 at 20:50
Wednesday, Sep 19, 2007 at 20:50
If you are a licenced shooter and registered firearm owner in your state you are required to register your firearm at the nearest Police Station once in WA. Thats it.
I took one along a couple ofyears ago and did not register it and worried about it a bit. Now I leave the bloody thing at
home as it is not worth the worry.
If you don't have a licence for the firearm......
then no need to worry.....LOL
Maybe you could Google the real info from WA Police Dept or Firearms Branch
Cheers
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Reply By: Crackles - Wednesday, Sep 19, 2007 at 21:06
Wednesday, Sep 19, 2007 at 21:06
When we went to WA we were stopped at the quarentine station at
Norseman (I think) & after they checked for fruit & Veg were asked if carrying a firearm. Being licenced & registered (in Vic) we said we had several & were imediately told to go to the Police station. 2 hours later after much discussion we were issued with transit permits which allowed us to carry but not discharge them. Initially they wanted us to leave them there & pick up on return but we were looping around via the Taminai, not real convienient :-)
WA have always been strict on the gun laws so unless you have somewhere legit to shoot I'd be leaving them behind.
Cheers Craig...............
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Reply By: Member - GeeTee (NT) - Wednesday, Sep 19, 2007 at 22:57
Wednesday, Sep 19, 2007 at 22:57
Hi Hairy,
Just been through this B..l S..t in WA.
Took the trusty old .22 Licensed and legal throughout the Territory, locked in the Outback draws (Legal as a gun safe here in the NT so I am told ) Didn't worry about it too much until we got to
Broome.
On the ABC there was a local program on one morning telling interstate people that if they had firearms they could register them with the local police station while they were in WA, for free, and they would be legal. So rocked of to the police station in
Broome. Told the guy at the counter that I would like to register the .22. Whoa .. then the fun started. No I can't register for free ... $45 fee in cash to get a permit to "have but not use" while in WA. Not impressed with that so I ask if they will hold the .22 until my return from further south then carry on back up to
Darwin (
home). Yep can do for $120 approx but the moment I set foot outside the station they will nab me because its not in WA and I will be travelling through WA to get back to the NT border. Because I was not resident in WA I could not apply for a firearms licence to carry and use it in WA.
I was not left with not too many options so had to cough up with the $45 cash and "leave the rifle in the locked draw" until my return to the Territory.
The officer mellowed a bit during the time and admitted that there should be some uniformity between states.
I know what to do next time ! ! ! !
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Reply By: Hairy (NT) - Thursday, Sep 20, 2007 at 17:34
Thursday, Sep 20, 2007 at 17:34
I was wondering how long It would take to here from DIO. To answer your question mate, the kids and I got bored with "I spy" years ago, now we play who can blow the crap out of the most road signs over a Km. (trouble is I cheat and take my turn through the towns where there is more signs!)
JOKING!!!!!
No other reason than I want to!
To everyone else, Thanks.
A lot of good info.
I have a mate who is a Senior Sergeant, so I might have a bit of a chat and see what he thinks.
It might be easier to take something unregistered and concealable like a hand gun and hide it! LOL
Joking again!!!!
Cheers ALL
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Follow Up By: DIO - Thursday, Sep 20, 2007 at 18:25
Thursday, Sep 20, 2007 at 18:25
Could have probably helped you out if you had taken the trouble to answer a reasonable question wiuth an intelligent answer. O'h
well obviously you know best and will probably have to pay the price now. Some people will never learn.
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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Thursday, Sep 20, 2007 at 22:57
Thursday, Sep 20, 2007 at 22:57
No offence DIO, but your usuall comments are extremely correct.
(politicaly correct)
My reasons for carrying a firearm are personal. And a question like.. "why would you" are another topic.
Do you want to know?
Cheers
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