Increasing boost on 1HDT

Submitted: Thursday, Oct 25, 2007 at 19:53
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To those that know,

I've an early 80 series with the 1HDT that was rebuilt about 40 thou ago. All is well mechanically and I've just put and 3 inch madrel bend exhaust with the equivalent dump pipe on it. I've spoken to a diesel specialist who I'm looking to get to dyno it and adjust the fuel and boost.
I'm not after a rocket but want the best out of the motor without over taxing it. We have a 1000+kg camper and it runs 285/75's which take a little out of it. Just hoping for some thoughts on a safe boost limit for this motor, was thinking of 12 psi.
Looking forward to your replies.

Ben
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Reply By: Kev. (Cairns) - Thursday, Oct 25, 2007 at 20:11

Thursday, Oct 25, 2007 at 20:11
I have 315/75's on my standard turbo 80 series & have no problem towing my heavy boat.

Was the injector pump & injectors overhauled with the engine ?
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Follow Up By: 93 Navara - Thursday, Oct 25, 2007 at 21:18

Thursday, Oct 25, 2007 at 21:18
The pump definitely was and I assume the injectors were. It was done prior to me purchasing.
No issues with it towing as such, just trying to improve it without affecting its reliability.
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Follow Up By: Outnabout David (SA) - Thursday, Oct 25, 2007 at 21:48

Thursday, Oct 25, 2007 at 21:48
Well if you don't want to affect reliability then don't play withn the boost. just get it fueled right for optimum performance and watch those EGT'S. It is mazing the different readouts you get under different conditions. If you have put in a 3" system then it probably has provision for a pyro/egt guage.
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Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 07:06

Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 07:06
Ben,

Get rid of the 285 tyres, and fit 265's. Will make a big difference.

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Reply By: Davo_60 (ACT) - Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 08:50

Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 08:50
Hello,

11-12 psi maximum if you would like keep it reliable, the turbo on the 1-hdt doesn't cope well with more boost than that. Adjust fuel accordingly and you will find a good improvement with the 3" exhaust also. Must have pyro if you are changing boost and fuel from standard.

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Reply By: In Good Time - Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 08:54

Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 08:54
93 Navara

I know you have a 1HDT but I can tell you that the 1HDFTE runs maximum 12 PSI boost as standard from Toyota.

Pete.
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Follow Up By: Bushtrek - Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 10:28

Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 10:28
Just looking at the Service Data file from Toyota for the 1HD-T and 1HDFTE the Turbocharging boosat pressures are as follows:

1HD-T: 5.4 to 7.0 psi

1HD-FTE: 7.0 to 9.8

That is a fair way short of 12 for both motors.
For durability I would not exceed the 1HD-FTE maximum boost pressure. The main durability issues will be valve faces [heat] and extra wear over time on the big end and piston bearings.

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Follow Up By: TD100 - Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 21:01

Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 21:01
Bushtrek,the 1HDFTE runs 12 to 13 standard,i was at the 4WD show yesterday and a bloke at one stand said to wind it up to 14 to 15 PSI no worries!they have a 16psi boost shut down he says,has done several and says the difference is chalk and cheese,much better low down torque and greatly reduced lag.dont even up size the intercooler on the 100 series as it is a waste of money.cheers Paul
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Follow Up By: Davo_60 (ACT) - Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 23:32

Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 23:32
Both engines will handler higher boost ast TD100 has stated but the turbo on 1HD-T becomes unreliable above 13psi. Could fit an aftermarket turbo. I think Yanmar modifies these engines and gets heaps more out of them reliably, for marine use though.
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Follow Up By: Bushtrek - Saturday, Oct 27, 2007 at 17:10

Saturday, Oct 27, 2007 at 17:10
TD100,
The figures quoted are correct. I should add that the maximum boost pressure on the 1HD-T is at 4,400 rpm and the 1HD-FTE is at 4,300 rpm.
If a new engine was presented to/inspected by Toyota Engineering with higher boost pressure then either the Actuator hose assembly would be checked for cracks and if cracked it would be replaced or the Turbocharger assembly would be replaced.

What you are talking about is the test pressure of the Actuator.
On the 1HD-T the test pressure is 92.7 kPa (13.4 psi) and on the 1HD-FTE it is 114 kPa (16.5 psi).
The actuator is there to protect the engine from overpressure, and running too lean, the fuel delivery system will not supply sufficient fuel at such high boost pressure to run the engine stoichiometrically.
That is not the same as saying the Turbocharger runs at 12 or 13 psi, it does not run at this pressure under standard conditions.
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Follow Up By: rabbley - Saturday, Oct 27, 2007 at 17:58

Saturday, Oct 27, 2007 at 17:58
Hey Bushtrek,
Seems like another show salesmean has confused the great unwashed.
I also got given the spiel about the turbo on my old 1hdt running at 15 spi. Had it checked and they found it was maxxed out at 6 but the dealer service manager wouldn't let them move it above 7 while it was still under warranty.
you sound like some yota engineer.
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Reply By: 93 Navara - Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 11:14

Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 11:14
Might only let him go to 10 psi and dyno from there. I'll be keeping the 285's Bob.
Thanks for your replies, wasn't aware they had such a low boost from factory.
Ben
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