Prado Hayman Reece towbar follow up

Submitted: Saturday, Nov 17, 2007 at 04:33
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I thought I should give you all an update now that I have taken the towbar to the manufacturers head office in Dandenong. I asked why it would have fallen off the car rather than make my own judgement and it was a good way to begin as the Customer Service Manager told me mine was the 4th hayman REece towbar designed for the Prado to come in with the same fault.

It seems the steel used was not of a strength needed for such a tow bar and he informed me it had now been corrected. I asked if they were going to do a recall and he said no, They had informed their distributors and recalled what they had in stock and replaced it. I pointed out that those on the vehicles needed to be recalled or at least warn the Prado owners of the possible weakness. He commented that he didn't think it was worth panicking the whole country. He offered to get rid of my old tow bar but I told him I wanted it for a souvinir, his comment then was "Well don't show too many people."

He did offer me a refund for the cost of the replacement tow bar on receipt of a copy of my receipt. I thanked him and left feeling responsible now for informing the rest of Australia about what I now knew. I have written to the CEO of the company Hayman Reece is incorporated in and told him I will inform consumer Affairs if he does not warn Prado owners that they need to check their tow bars. I suggested he could do this by informing Toyota who could send out the warning as they do for recalls to all Prado owners.

So it was not incorrect fitting as first thought. The tow bar had not been welded either, the metal had broken through but at three different times making the remaining edge look like welding.

I will keep you informed of what transpires from Hayman Reece.

I wrote this in the wrong place originally and since then I have spoken to several people even the police, as knowing there are potentially thousands of caravans which could at any moment come adrift from their tow vehicle is constantly on my mind. I have been advised to notify Consumer Affairs regardless of what Hayman Reece do. So I have done this using their online form which takes 2 weeks to process the web site says. I have also notified my caravan insurance company CiL as in the long run they may be affected too and suggested they tell people to check their tow bars when they send out renewals or other correspondence.

There is another caravanners web site I found too and posted a notice there as well as I found a referrence to a BMW hayman Reece tow bar with a metal weakness and they included photos a link to which I have included below.

Have alook at: http://groups.msn.com/TouringOz/hitches.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=2571

I have taken photos of mine as suggested and have put them on the web at the link below

http://community.webshots.com/album/561466362gzRSRq



Thanks again for all of you who showed an interest in this Forum entry and offered me advice.

Adele
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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Saturday, Nov 17, 2007 at 07:02

Saturday, Nov 17, 2007 at 07:02
Adele,

On the tow bar there should be a compliance plate. On this plate there would be a lot of information including a batch number.

It would be great to get a photo of the compliance plate.

Wayne
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Follow Up By: Merrijigger - Saturday, Nov 17, 2007 at 09:37

Saturday, Nov 17, 2007 at 09:37
Hi Wayne,

I have added the compliance plate to the same link but this link below may take you directly to that photo which I have uploaded in a larger format incase the info wouldn't show up in the fast upload format.

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2977200150026969058gOQKhI




Adele


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Reply By: Outnabout David (SA) - Saturday, Nov 17, 2007 at 07:44

Saturday, Nov 17, 2007 at 07:44
If ther was to be a recall it would just be a notice in the paper etc. A letter from Toota to all known owners would not happen as this was not a genuine Toyota bar that failed.
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Follow Up By: Merrijigger - Saturday, Nov 17, 2007 at 19:13

Saturday, Nov 17, 2007 at 19:13
Hi David,

Writing to Toyota customers was an idea I had to get the word to the people who may need to know. It is worrying me that every Prado towing a van could lose it at any time. If you have any other ideas of how to spread the word let me know and I will do it.

Ignorance is bliss but knowing what could happen is scary.

Adele
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Reply By: Member - barry F (NSW) - Saturday, Nov 17, 2007 at 19:27

Saturday, Nov 17, 2007 at 19:27
Makes interesting reading & begs the question just how many faulty Hayman Reese tow bars are out there.
Last Sept on the Barrier Hwy about 30 Ks out of Cobar with a 16 foot pop top behind a Camry, BANG & an almight jolt, a quick look in tthe rear view mirrow & our van was about four metres further back than it should have been!! If you have not expeirenced it, I can assure you it is not a pretty sight!!
Reflex action was to hit the brakes, van skewed to the left with the right hand corner of the van collecting the left side of the car bumber.
The little stubby box section that receives the ball & WDH head had broken away from the main part of the assembly. This section also is where the safety chains attach. Inspection revealed it to have been only partly welded to the main assembly.
When all came to a rest, still "nearly" on the road, all the towing gear, safety chains & WDH all still attached to the van.
Fortunately no one was hurt.
Many people pulled up to offer assistance etc & a bloke came along in a series 80 cruiser that had a tow bar, so about an hour after the event we were following our van in to Cobar, courtesy of the guy with the Cruiser ( he was from Victoria)
Hayman Reese, ( Cequent) were quick to offer financial compensation / reimbursement etc. for new tow bar, insurance excess, cash payment to our good samaritan etc on the proviso we signed a "deed of release".
Had we have signed the document we would have received financial settlement of our out of pocket expenses, however we were told by our insurance company that they, the insurance company, then would have sought recovery of repairs to our van & vehicle from US!!
What worries me is every time Iam driving down the Hwy & see a vehicle with a "wobble box" ( yes we still have one!!) behind & heading my way, I just pray that it stays attached until past me.
It also destroys your confidence a bit, as you never know when it might happen again!!
I took "precautions" with the bar that is now fitted to another tow vehicle & it will never come adrift!!
If ever you are in Cobar & in trouble, don't go past Cook & Black, Ford agents. They are great people & can't do enought to help you out.
Anyway good luck, but we should not have to rely on "good Luck" when it comes to these sort of issues.
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Saturday, Nov 17, 2007 at 19:43

Saturday, Nov 17, 2007 at 19:43
I would have sued them, their insurers would have settled out of court with a bigger settlement to shut you up.

Its a bloody worry all the same, how long before someones caravan / trailer braking loose kills someone???
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Follow Up By: Merrijigger - Saturday, Nov 17, 2007 at 19:48

Saturday, Nov 17, 2007 at 19:48
Wow Barry, your story is even scarier than mine in that your van actually came adrift. I canot believe that a company with thier reputation would willingly put the travelling public at risk. They must have something to hide if they wanted you to sign a document, and wanted to keep my towbar so no one else would see it.

i hope Consumer Affairs does something to warn people.

I am wondering now fter hearing your story, if the weight of the WDH is part of the problem, they are very heavy, may be it is a combination of low quality steel and this weight constantly on the towbar that makes a bad combination.

I find I check the bolts each morning before I head off when I am towing now, a little bit paranoid now i am afraid. But I would rather do that than not tow my van around.

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