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Disappointed Nuvi 760 or is it just me?

Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 02, 2008 at 19:42

Outnabout David (SA)

Well the big fat fella in the red suit briught the missus and me a Nuvi 760 for Christmas. Tried it out in the city and all worked fine.
I should say it came with City Navigator (ithink thats what it is called) and OZ toppo but the old version as the new one is still coming.

Anyway thought I would take a little drive on the weekend to a place in SA called Morgan which anyone using oZieexplorer should be able to look up.

I wqasn't all that happy with the route selection on the way up and tried various settiings with City Navigator on and off, with Oztoppo on and off, with them both on. Used fastest route and also shortest route but could never be satisfied with any of the routes it suggested.

Eg South of Morgan if anyone is looking at a map is a town called Blanchetown. There is a road either side of the Murray which goes directly to Morgan and I was on the road on the western side of the Murray and reset the unit to the Lat/long coordinates of where I was going.

The unit insisted that we go back along the main highway to Truro then north to Eudunda and then east to Morgan, a distance of 200Km. Could not believe it as the road I was on I only had 30 K's to go.

The road on the eastern side of the river is also only about 40 k.

I thought Ok even though the road I am on is on the map maybe it only will go on the major roads. But if so then across the river over to Waikerie and back to Morgan would be shorter and quicker than what was being suggested.

Don't get me wrong I think it is a great little unit but i think a lot of people are buying these thinking that it will do all their of road stuff as well as there city stuff.

For me I will stick to my old GPS coupled to my Ipaq and just have the Nuvi as a bit of a back up.

Or

Maybe I have missed something.

Also be interested if anyone has one to work out how to upload tracks from Ozzie and also how to save and dowlnload the snail trail.

Thanks in advance.

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AnswerID: 279440   Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 02, 2008 at 19:48

Member - Olcoolone (S.A) replied:

Just think how far you would of driven if you didn't know the area.

If you ever come up for a club meeting DON'T USE IT....

7 hours from your place to Kadina is a loooonnnng time.

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AnswerID: 279442   Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 02, 2008 at 19:53

Member - Mike DID replied:

Yes, similar to my experience.

I'm amazed that Sensis get away with selling a product that is so full of errors, without thousands complaining that it is not of merchantable quality.
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FollowupID: 543611   Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 02, 2008 at 20:06

Member - Olcoolone (S.A) posted:

Two words Mike......TELSTRA OWNED.

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AnswerID: 279445   Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 02, 2008 at 20:02

Member - Doug T (FNQ) replied:

David
All I can say is your not using it right, i.e still earning, if you had it set to navigate SHORTEST it would do just that, and to be sure you can make a Via point on the road between Blanchetown and Morgan, I know the area well , lived at Waikerie for 9 years, also make sure you have the setting to Car/Motorcycle , the distance from the Sturt Hwy to Eudunda Rd is 36.6 Klm.
I use a Nuvi 660. cannot fault it, In Brisbane when set to Car/Motorcycle it will not guide you into a Bus Only lane, Give time and you will learn how to use it and you will enjoy .

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FollowupID: 543615   Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 02, 2008 at 20:20

Member - Doug T (FNQ) posted:

You also have to remember that a GPS is like a computer, say at the bottom of Acommodation Hill you program the GPS for Morgan and it's set on shortest route then of course it;s going to work in an instant just that .... the shortest route and will ask you to turn left at the Air Beacon , your a human and want to go via Blanchetown , so as soon as you drive past that turn off it re route again and again until your within 9Klm or more it will then route up the western side of the river.


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FollowupID: 543619   Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 02, 2008 at 20:40

Outnabout David (SA) posted:

You may be right Doug but as we were going along I was playing with all the buttons(i was the passenger) and I was damned if I could get the route to be the way I wanted or was on.

Since posting and reading your reply I have set up a route at blanchetown and it has selectedr the road I was on but didn't seem to in practice or real time on the day.
l was just playing with it and selected a destination as Richard said above with a route from home to Kadina

I know you know the area well and where I live at Nairne/Mt barker and the bloody thing wants me to go out to Balhannah an one tree hill to get there. On both fastest and shortest simulated route.

You sure you havn't put a bug in the Garmin system so I have to travel past your old stomping ground at Chain of ponds?

You are probably right , just gotta get used to it but I fear I may become lost and then be like Roachie.

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FollowupID: 543623   Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 02, 2008 at 20:49

Member - Doug T (FNQ) posted:

David
I just did the route on the PC using Garmin / Fastest route and NO Chain of Ponds was by-Passed

1. Nairne 0 m 0:00:00 S35 02 12.6 E138 54 50.8
2. Get on Main Rd and drive west 1 m 1 m 0:00:00 0:00:00 201° true S35 02 12.6 E138 54 50.8
3. Turn right onto De-Gacher St 930 m 929 m 0:00:55 0:00:55 248° true S35 02 08.4 E138 54 19.2
4. Turn left onto De-Gacher St 1.0 km 71 m 0:00:17 0:01:12 317° true S35 02 06.7 E138 54 17.4
5. Turn right onto Woodside Rd 1.2 km 216 m 0:00:15 0:01:27 237° true S35 02 10.5 E138 54 10.3
6. Turn left onto Nairne Rd 11.4 km 10.2 km 0:10:31 0:11:58 18° true S34 57 15.7 E138 52 45.8
7. Turn right onto Onkaparinga Valley Rd 11.9 km 420 m 0:00:38 0:12:36 291° true S34 57 10.7 E138 52 30.3
8. Turn left onto Birdwood-Mt Torrens Rd 24.1 km 12.2 km 0:09:35 0:22:11 66° true S34 52 33.0 E138 57 32.3
9. Turn right onto Olivedale St 30.5 km 6.4 km 0:05:07 0:27:18 5° true S34 49 06.1 E138 57 53.9
10. Turn left onto Murray St 74.9 km 44.4 km 0:30:01 0:57:19 333° true S34 29 59.3 E139 03 07.7
11. Turn right onto Light Pass Rd 78.6 km 3.7 km 0:02:56 1:00:15 290° true S34 29 25.3 E139 00 54.4
12. Turn left onto Penrice Rd 80.4 km 1.8 km 0:01:57 1:02:12 35° true S34 28 32.2 E139 01 19.0
13. Turn right onto Light Pass Rd 80.4 km 36 m 0:00:20 1:02:32 293° true S34 28 31.7 E139 01 17.7
14. Turn right onto Sturt Hwy 85.1 km 4.7 km 0:04:25 1:06:57 20° true S34 26 09.9 E139 02 18.8
15. Turn left onto Truro - Eudunda Rd 93.6 km 8.5 km 0:05:55 1:12:52 79° true S34 24 27.2 E139 07 22.6
16. Turn left onto Truro - Eudunda Rd 93.6 km 33 m 0:00:08 1:13:00 29° true S34 24 26.2 E139 07 23.2
17. Turn right onto Kapunda-Morgan Rd 121 km 27.7 km 0:20:51 1:33:51 342° true S34 10 59.4 E139 06 27.4
18. Turn left onto Railway Tce 177 km 56.1 km 0:42:52 2:16:43 129° true S34 02 12.3 E139 40 14.9
19. Morgan 178 km 236 m 0:00:26 2:17:09 300° true S34 02 05.8 E139 40 19.0

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FollowupID: 543627   Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 02, 2008 at 21:12

Member - Doug T (FNQ) posted:

David
There is another thing too, if you touch spanner/Map/Avoidances and make sure unsealed roads is unticked

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FollowupID: 543630   Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 02, 2008 at 21:22

Outnabout David (SA) posted:

Doug,

I think that was my problem. the avoidances were on and the unpaved road and major roads checked. Guess that is why it wouldn't take me up the dirt road or in the other example down the main Freeway to the city and then ouT oirtrush Rd.

Will have to try it out in the country again.

Thanks Doug!

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FollowupID: 543655   Submitted: Thursday, Jan 03, 2008 at 07:09

Member - Mike DID posted:

"The unit insisted that we go back along the main highway to Truro then north to Eudunda and then east to Morgan, a distance of 200Km. Could not believe it as the road I was on I only had 30 K's to go. "

So the explanation is that if "shortest" had been selected it would have saved 170km ". In "fastest" mode, the 200km route will be faster than the 30km route ?
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AnswerID: 279454   Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 02, 2008 at 20:43

Eric Experience replied:

David.
My experience also. You have to know where you are going in order to trick the machine to give you the right route. That's why I don't recommend anything with the sensis maps in it. the only unit that works straight out of the box is the Navway. Eric
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AnswerID: 279456   Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 02, 2008 at 20:46

Member - Stephen L (SA) replied:

Hi David,
I know what you are on about the new Nuvi 760. They had only just been released before Christmas and our rep gave us a demo and they looked like the Bees Knees, with all the bells and whistles.

I sold 2 to one of our customers for Christmas presents and he came back 2 days later with one main query and not impressed,
How do I find the local hospitals in the area. Even though he was a local and knew that the units were wrong, there a 5 Hospitals within the Clare area (Balaklava, Snowtown, Clare, Burra and Riverton), the unit said that the nearest hospitals were over 100 kms away, at either Gawler or Port Pirie.

I rang our local Garmin distributor today and gave them my complaint, that in the event that you were a tourist to the area, it could be a life or death situation in the event that you were looking for a hospital. I was told that they were not responsible, as they were using the Sensis product software and the product is only as good as the software supplied.

I feel that this is very poor, not by Garmin, but by Sensis for giving misleading information.

This is my thoughts only.

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AnswerID: 279465   Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 02, 2008 at 22:07

Skippy In The GU replied:

Hi David just last week i had my Nuvi 760 lock up on me 5 times in one day, and once today. I had it side by side next to the Tom Tom on PDA and it was better for road navigation but i also found it slower compared to the Tom tom.
The red light camera notifications came just as i drove past or after the cameras. After using it for 3 weeks i'm also not very happy either, Of course it took me at least 2 weeks before i found the bugs . I rang Harvey norman to see if I could swap it or get my money back and they said only up to 2 weeks from purhase.

I find it takes up to 3 minutes to get sat lock when I first turn it on in morning, I don't believe it has a sirf 3 chipset even though they claim it. I am used to a more advanced GPS than this and I thought and was told this was the best so far.

I also had troubles 3 days ago coming back from Melbourne where the text to speech stopped working for no reason.

I should have brought the 276c or the 7200 instead

But this problem with locking up isn't a good sign.
I still think the Tom Tom has a much better POI section.

Try finding Mount Barker then type in Mt Barker

To save the smail trail to must have the new version of mapsource trip and waypoint manager. you also need that to add multiple waypoints.

I haven't tried adding tracks but you can add routes as long as it's from the same Mapsource version

If you want to add your own POI you'll need to download GSAK and know how to use the macros to create them.
I've got her talking up to 20 words about the POI and with the POI loader you can set the warning distance.

I found you can't edit the waypoints from the list but you can create another one.

I don't like the way they use the Favorites button to store the Waypoints, where in TomTom you can asine (not the correct spelling after a few drinks ) you can add as many different types of POI

A lot of the speed limits are wrong around Adelaide and the new intersection Mullers rd and regency road is not updated and yet just out of Hoopers crossing it wanted me to drive down a new propossed road which has just started works

The Maps update are more than likely better for the eastern states then SA

As you can see i have done heaps with mine

If I didn't want to add Shonkymaps i would have brought the TomTom 720 instead

I'll let you know about adding track logs from ozi in a few days


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FollowupID: 543638   Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 02, 2008 at 22:10

Skippy In The GU posted:

I forgot to say if you want to travel past another location or go a different way then add the new Where to location and select add as via point
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FollowupID: 543652   Submitted: Thursday, Jan 03, 2008 at 06:47

Outnabout David (SA) posted:

Thanks Skip.

re The Mapsource trip and waypoint manager is that something extra I have to buy and hat is GSAK and where do I download that.

Already worked out the MT/Mount thing.


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FollowupID: 543666   Submitted: Thursday, Jan 03, 2008 at 08:43

Skippy In The GU posted:

Mapsource Trip and waypoint manager is an extra product you can buy for about $60 or you can download a free copy from the GPS australia site I can send you the http page via PM if you want it.
Gsak is a Geocaching tool that can be used to create and open gpx files. it's not an easy program to use at first and i'm still learning how to use many of it's features
You won't be able to recieve and send waypoints to the nuvi but you can export a mapsource file and sent it that way

The web page for this is http://gsak.net/
it's free to download and use but after 21 days you get a nagging screen wanting you to pay, I think about $30

I think it's a great program , I mainly use it for Geocaching
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AnswerID: 279496   Submitted: Thursday, Jan 03, 2008 at 09:23

DIO replied:

One of the problems with City Navigator is the lack of acknowledgement/recognition of ferries across the Murray. If you want to travel to say Swan reach or say Loxton via Sedan etc Navigator will send you off along the Sturt Highway. Install a copy of Shonky Maps or Tracks4 Australia. Whilst neither will allow voice assisted navigation they will accurately plot and indicate to you your location, direction etc. Good enogh to find the ferry at Swan reach. Good luck.
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AnswerID: 283927   Submitted: Sunday, Jan 27, 2008 at 10:38

MultiSailor replied:

I recently had a bad experience with City Navigator 7 in my Garmin 276C. On a trip fropm Sydney to Brisbane I decided to make a detour to Wooli, as I often see it from the ocean and was keen to visit. Trusting the Garmin implicitly, I turned off onto what appeared to be a forestry road in a Camry sedan. The road progressively became worse, I jacked the car about five times, then found myself at a place called Collett's Crossing, where I was confronted by a river with no visible crossing. All vehicle tracks looped and returned from whence they came.
In all, it took me five hours by the time I returned to the highway with a very dirty car (and driver) both much the worse for wear and a very frightened wife who has not a good word to say about the technology.
I have since investigated the route planned by City Navigator and found that, had I negotiated Collett's Crossing, it would have attempted to take me in a straight line to Wooli across further rivers etc. The Garmin was set to Car/Motorcycle.
Google Earth shows that it would have turned me off at Eight Mile Lane. I would have seen Wooli, enjoyed the drive, and arrived in Brisbane on time.
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FollowupID: 548639   Submitted: Sunday, Jan 27, 2008 at 12:08

Mike Harding posted:

Can't be!

Garmin GPS' are perfect.

Mike Harding :)
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AnswerID: 284352   Submitted: Tuesday, Jan 29, 2008 at 18:27

gap replied:

I have a Nuvi 760 and just tried setting the same route and it seemed to work okay (36 km distance for the route recommended).

My unit has the 2008 maps and they may be different to yours. If the road is not mapped on your unit, the Garmin will not be able to route along it (not intending to be rude or funny).

You should also look at the settings for "avoidances". As a result of your query, I noted that mine had been set to avoid unpaved roads and that would make a substantial difference to route calculations where there are many dirt roads.

Hope this is useful.

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