FollowupID: 545539 Submitted:
Saturday, Jan 12, 2008 at 15:02
The All Terrain has shoulderLock technology incorporating the upper sidewall traction bars to give greater traction on and off road.
As for the sticks in the side wall, it's just unlucky and very rare that that has happened.
The sidewall strength and thickness in a BFG in 2nd to none. 3-Ply Polyester carcass construction campared to the competitions 2-ply. (pictures attached). The sidewall cut outs are from a BFG A/T and a Cooper ST. The BFG has a much thicker and stronger more durable sidewall, as well a a rim protector. Approx 5mm compared to 8mm. It takes a lot more to go through the sidewall of a BFG than just about anything else.
As for the km warranty being void if you take them off road, just ask your local Cooper's dealer. That is why ONLY people in the city get the km warranty, not the people in the country. Country roads are often rough and dirt, which can put the alignment out easier, and wear the tyres out quicker. Tyres wear out quicker off road than on road. Almost every one in some way will void the km wty along the way.
I was not changing any subject, or avoiding it.
If you want information regarding the wty on BFG, just ask your authorised BFGoodrich dealer. UV rays don't effect rubber usually until after 4-5 years on most tyres, so no-one ever has to worry about that, so I am surprised Cooper's even mention it, but some tyres age alot quicker than others. You will see this by cracks in tread area first, them moving to the side walls.
I didn't get on here to sell you anything. I will probably never see or ever have the chance to sell you anything, so this was not for my benefit, but was intended to help with some important facts. If you don't want to listen, I don't care. Buy your Cooper's, Bridges, Goody's, or Dunny's or whatever, makes no difference to me.
Unfortunately most think they are black and round and are all the same, and it's especially unfortunate that even most people in the industry think the same because they don't bother to do any research so that they can genually give you the best advice. They will just sell the cheapest ro the easiest tyre to sell you. Cooper's....oh yeah, I heard they were good... I take them. Or, these are just $100 each, $200 cheaper than the BFG's, and theyr'e an all terrain. $100 sounds good... ok.
The only independent stores.....well.... there are none! - None!Tyre's and More is owned by Yokahama, All Goodyear, Dunlop and Beaurepairs are ownded by Goodyear/Dunlop so will try to sell you either Goodyear, Dunlop, or Sava. Bridgestone stores... obvious. Tyre Power - Toyo, Kelly, Mickey T or Cooper's - they usually only have one or the other. Jax Quick fit are independent but have to buy almost everything through head office and pay a large percentage of their profit to head office, and sell what they are told to, or what profit margin tells them to.
Bob Jane will try to sell you their Bob Jane nearly rounders, or Xenon (called that I think as you often need very good head lights at night to give you enough distance to stop - just kiding). Also Maxxis, as they import most sizes themselves, then also Yokahama and Pirelli as there is much more margin in them than either Michelin or BFGoodrich. It's just that they need those 2 brands for credability. It's hard to say you have the best when you don't have those 2.
Well... I have done extensive research on construction, performance, life, and as much technical information as I could find. If you saw the technical data and indepth detail of tyre construction, you too would realise tyres ain't tyres.
I have not promoted or advertised my business here, or tried to sell anyone anything. So stop with the salesman bleep . Or I'll go on and on about the ignorant uninformed public crap.
20 years ago the public were very uneducated about cars - now almost everyone has quite a good idea about what they should pay and what to buy, instead of being ripped off.
Just to make things clear. I don't just sell BFGoodrich. I am also an authorised dealer and stock Michelin, Bridgestone, Maxxis, Continental, Pirelli, Falken, Kumho, Hankook, Silverstone, Federal, Jetson, Accelera, Nexen, Nankang, Firenza, Kenda, Merit, GT Radial, plus a lot more I can't think of at the moment. How many stores do you know that are authorised sellers of that many brands. Also... I can get you Goodyear, Dunlop, Toyo, and Mickey Thompson's if you want at competitive prices.
I always recommend the best tyre for your budget, situation, vehicle, and the type of driving you will be doing. BFGoodrich is a relative small percentage of what I sell.
I am bias towards BFGoodrich All Terrains because I think they are so good - There is one better, with simply uncompromising grip in the wet, quiet, comfortable, tough off road, and generally good for 100,000km plus - Michelin LTX A/T, and in allot of sizes only $10 or so more than BFG or Copper's., And as they are 1 piece, it is virtually impossible for them to ever seperate.
On my Patrol I have BFGoodrich Long Trail T/A, my push bike has Michelin, and my motor bike has Pirelli. Horses for courses.
Each person and individual vehicle has a different requirement.
I'm not selling you anything - I just hope you do your own research, and buy what you want, not what the dealer tells you you want. I am bias, but it is because I am informed.
Anyway, this is my last post. If I missed answering your question it's because I missed reading it or forgot to. I have never replied to any article ever written but the original post is just so full of crap I had to. There is an underlying issue with his tyres that is not being told. If he bought them from an authorised dealer, and they are the old model, then he should contact BFG/Michelin by phone and say so, and that dealer could be in some serious trouble. If they weren't an authorised dealer they could be in even more trouble.
Good luck to all, have a great time off road, and make sure you have fun. Cheers, Pat