OT - Buying/Building a Shed....what's your experience???
Submitted: Sunday, Jun 15, 2008 at 22:09
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Member - Hughesy (NSW)
Just bought a house (first) and need to put up a big shed. I'm looking at 7x15x3.1 or 8x12x3.1.
Now the internet is full of different manufacturers/resellers and the options are mind blowing.
I've spoken to a few mates that have had d sheds built and the construction techniques vary widely and I'm assuming this is why the prices do too (for the same size shed).
One mate had to bolt foot plates to the concrete and then "use 3 tech screws" to hold the uprights to them. That sounded bleep weak to me. I would be expecting the uprights to be all one piece with floor mounting plate already attached/bolted.
Anyone had any good or bad experiences with different types of sheds?? If you can remember the brand that would help immensly.
One great site I did stumble over is from www.shedsales.om.au and they have a virtual shed quoting system. Its great and allows you to get a quote on any size shed you want and you get a 3D diagram showing what your shed looks like as you build it...right down to the colour. Just a pity their prices "seem" a bit dear compared with some of the other websites.
Any
feedback would be appreciated. This shed will cost more than any vehicle I have ever bought so it needs to be a good one.
Reply By: mike w (WA) - Sunday, Jun 15, 2008 at 22:36
Sunday, Jun 15, 2008 at 22:36
hughsey,
Like all things it is you get what you paid for. For our shed I designed and constructed myself, as it was cheaper buying the materials direct from the likes of Midalia etc and suited my specifications better.
On another note, from my experience stay clear of stratco (if you have them in NSW) We had a patio designed and supplied by them it it was bleep poor from the quality of material suppiled, the amount of material supplied (numerous trips back to get that extra peice that they did not supply, such as 3m short on the guttering), weak (IMO and a roofy friends opinion) design characteristics, and not built to exact specification, which for us was critical , as the patio needed to extend beyond the edge of the house as per our suppllied drawings, instead they just extended the house on the design- go figure.
Stick with the reputable builders, and get as many different quotes as possible. I have also found (and have been told numerous times by roofy friend) that get quotes from franchise companies in different locations, as often yo can get a better deal from franchise x 35m down the road from your local.
Remember a shed is a mans castle, not forgetting to factor into the quote for the bar fridge and plasma screen
good luck
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Follow Up By: Member - Hughesy (NSW) - Monday, Jun 16, 2008 at 21:05
Monday, Jun 16, 2008 at 21:05
Thanks Mike. Yeah I'm beginning to realise that there must be a reason for the big difference in prices. And as you said "you get what you pay for".
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Reply By: fisho64 - Monday, Jun 16, 2008 at 01:41
Monday, Jun 16, 2008 at 01:41
just in the process of building a shed similar in size to yours, 12 X 7.6 X 3.1m.
But
mine is besser block and steel roof.
Steel-if you go down the path of sorting your steel products individually, then GET QUOTES FOR EVERYTHING.
I made the mistake of buying quite a bit of reo bar from the nearest place and found out halfway thru that I was paying 40% more than Smorgons. It wasnt that one place was dearer, just that prices move like fuel prices.
The classic case in point was 180 universal beams, double the price from Smorgons and Statewide as Onesteel and purlin bolts $33 per 100 as opposed to $72 at another!
5 minutes on the phone or an email sent to all the sales departments can (and will) save you hundreds or thousands.
Good luck!
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Reply By: Hairs (NSW) - Monday, Jun 16, 2008 at 06:13
Monday, Jun 16, 2008 at 06:13
Hi Hughesy,
If I can give you just one piece of advice, it would that it will not be bigger enough. Go Bigger if money allows it.
Room only allowed me to go 6x10.5x2.4, wish I could of went 8x12x3.6.
You will always find something else you want to put in it or a mate will want to store something in it.
Thats if the Misses hasn't already claimed part of it. ;(
Yeah, their never bigger enough.
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Follow Up By: Member - Hughesy (NSW) - Monday, Jun 16, 2008 at 21:00
Monday, Jun 16, 2008 at 21:00
Thanks Hairs. I know what you mean about getting one as big as you can. I've been renting for years and had everything from a 2x3 garden shed to a 25m x 6m monster shed. And no the missus ain't claiming no room in my shed ;)))
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Reply By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Monday, Jun 16, 2008 at 06:38
Monday, Jun 16, 2008 at 06:38
Hughesy,
I inspect sheds everyday for work, so yes you are correct in the different onstruction techniques. The ones I look at are cyclone rated so will be a little different to yours.
You will possibly require a shed designed to be able to withstand W41 winds?
To fix the wall columns to the cast in concrete mountings up here they use 4 x 16mm bolts so at least 2 x 12mm bolts should be OK for you.
If using 6" columns make sure it is the same gauge as the 4" column or you may be paying for less room internally for very little structural gain. This is due to the total cross sectional area of the steel column.
The shed supplier should be able to provide a complete erection schedule as
well as a registered practicing engineer certification for the shed.
Remeber than wider and higher opening roller doors come in handy.
Enquiry about possible future additions to the shed eg front and side awnings.
If you need any more info let me know and I'll get some more info for you.
Cheers Sir Kev
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Follow Up By: Member - Hughesy (NSW) - Monday, Jun 16, 2008 at 21:09
Monday, Jun 16, 2008 at 21:09
Hi Kev,
Your right about wider and higher. The standard 3x6m bays are far to small. And 2.4m h is a joke. The place I'm renting at now I have to let my tyres down and take the roof rack off to get thru the garage into the shed. PITA.
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Reply By: Saharaman (aka Geepeem) - Monday, Jun 16, 2008 at 08:32
Monday, Jun 16, 2008 at 08:32
Hi Hughesy,
Research it very carefully. I found the best outcome was to use a local small shed company that could custom build one to my specification.
For example most companies use a thinner cladding on the walls than on the roof (0.42 bmt monoclad – ie. 0.47mm TCT). I changed that so that my walls were also 0.42 bmt. Just after being built we got hit by a severe hail storm – my shed was one of a very few in area that had no dents in the walls.
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well known company (that advertises a lot) uses Chinese steel rather than Australian steel so of course its cheaper but quality???
Go bigger if you can afford to – I decided on 11m x 15m by 4.2m high (3.0m on eaves). The height allowed me to build a mezzanine floor in the far end of shed for extra storage and still have room underneath for trailer, tool, mowers etc etc. This means I am getting about 35 sq meters of extra storage area for nix (I did it myself with second hand hard wood timber).
As others have said you get what you pay for – the shed market is very competitive so
shop around but be sure you are comparing apples with apples. All sheds are NOT equal.
Check the knee and apex construction joints – should use at least a 3mm thick pressed plate. What size are purlin bolts and how many are used etc. How are uprights anchored to slab (dyna bolts, U bolts or chemical anchors etc).
Good luck, Hope all goes
well.
Cheers,
Glen
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Follow Up By: Member - Hughesy (NSW) - Monday, Jun 16, 2008 at 21:23
Monday, Jun 16, 2008 at 21:23
Yeah your right Glen. The cheapest extension you can do to a shed is have plenty of height to start with and just add a mezzanine floor.
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