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Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 18, 2008 at 16:13

gaza16

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This article discusses the features and advantages for off road caravans and in what circumstances you should consider the additional expense of a specialised off-road van. View Full Article...
Hi, I have Hyundai Terracan, diesel, 2.9, looking to upgrade to a 'real off-road' caravan, with max ATM2000 & shower/toilet. Anyone out there with something similar and very happy?
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AnswerID: 335929   Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 18, 2008 at 16:20

Gary n Kerry replied:

I have a Terracan 2.9 TD towing a 24ft Adria caravan with a ATM of 2000Kg. Very happy with the towing capability of the terry although it can be a bit slow on the hills, although after saying that, I have overtaken slower moving vehicles.
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FollowupID: 603613   Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 18, 2008 at 18:55

Pradobob posted:

My (mechanic) mate has a 2.9TD Terracan. Tows a 18' Jayco off -road caravan with it. Tows well - after he upgraded the "spongy" suspension.
His other complaint was that the side mirrors are too flimsy to support his extension mirrors. The whole lot just "flaps back" hard against the body when a semi goes past. Same mirrors were OK on his Patrol. $100 supports were no cure either.
He is happy with the vehicle's economy, after having a petrol Patrol.
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AnswerID: 335944   Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 18, 2008 at 18:12

Member - Norm C (QLD) replied:

Without wishing to offend anyone, I don't think there is such a thing as a 'real off-road caravan' with a max ATM of 2000 KG. That would require a TARE of under 1,500 KG if you planned to load up for even a modest off road trip.

You may get what I would regard as a 'dirt road van' with those specs, but beware, light vans generally have light chassis and suspension, which is generally the opposite of what is required in an 'off- road' or even a 'dirt road' van.

It may be just a matter of difinition, but in my humble view, there are only about four manufacturers of 'real off-road' vans in Australia, and the ATM is generally 3,000 KG or more (most are 3,500 KG).

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FollowupID: 603608   Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 18, 2008 at 18:44

Motherhen posted:

Spot on Norm, strength = weight.

Gaza, read the fine print an vans you consider. Many caravans have an 'off road' model that isn't suited to much more than bitumen, and driving them 'on road', on corrugated, stony or rough roads may invalidate warranty at best. At worst it may come to grief resulting in a costly recovery. It all depends on where you want to travel.

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FollowupID: 603626   Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 18, 2008 at 19:41

Best Off Road posted:

Agree with Norm and MH,

Jayco do a single axle version with a shower and scheishenhausen, 16.5 footer, "outback" version weighs about 1450 dry.

It is essentially their normal van with more lift and a bit of checker plate alloy. Great unit, but not designed for serious off road stuff.

Keep in mind your Jerry will tow up to 2500 kg. Won't do it quickly, but there are many towing greater weights with far less powerful vehicles eg 3L Patrols.

MH summed it up, strength equals weight. Decent steel chassis, robust suspension, strong frame etc.

Cheers,

Jim.



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FollowupID: 603789   Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 18:25

ddr posted:

I disagree, there are a few brands of true offroad vans that would have an atm of less than 2000.

Trackmaster is one.

But he didnt state what size he was after.

Also after a recent trip too the cape there is no way IMHO that any jayco fits the bill of a "True offroad van"
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FollowupID: 603807   Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 19:49

Member - Norm C (QLD) posted:

ddr, I'm familiar with the Trackmaster and it is one of the brands I had in mind when I said earlier, there are about 4 'real off road van builders'.

In saying they have an ATM not more than 2,000 KG, IMO, this means a TARE of not more than 1,500 KG.

Now I don't have the specs, but I would think the only Trackmaster that might fit that weight is the smallest in their range. It is 11 feet long and 6 ft 6 inches wide. If it does have a TARE below 1,500 KG, and it is built with the same chassis and suspension of the bigger vans, then you are quite right. There is an off-road van within the required weight range.

But it is a VERY small van. I guess that's why you said 'But he didnt state what size he was after.'

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FollowupID: 603862   Submitted: Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 08:14

ddr posted:

Norm I have a Kimberly with a ATM of 1990. Its 15'6 x 7'6 with shower & toilet. Hardly a small van.

The only proviso the original poster put was toilet & shower, ive seen other smaller Trackies with S&T that would easily fit under that weight.
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FollowupID: 603952   Submitted: Thursday, Nov 20, 2008 at 18:27

Graham & Ann posted:

Norm, We have a 2200 ATM Evernew it goes wherever we want to tow it. Been many dirt roads, Like Gibb River, Tanami, Plenty, Great Centra, birdsvile etc... no dramas. done over 100k km now... it was originally plated 2000ATM but we had it upgraded before pick up. Off to Cape York next winter...l
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