Manufacturers maximum towing capacity - ATM or GTM?

Submitted: Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 21:51
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When manufacturers quote their maximum rated towing capacity of their vehicles, are they referring to Aggregate Trailer Mass or Gross Trailer Mass? It doesn't seem that clear and when I spoke to them, they didn't seem too sure themselves either.
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Reply By: tazbaz - Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 22:12

Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 22:12
Yes
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Reply By: Dunaruna - Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 22:46

Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 22:46
VSB1 and ADR 62/02 clearly state ATM.
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Reply By: kev.h - Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 23:06

Monday, Dec 08, 2008 at 23:06
When manufacturers quote Aggregate Trailer Mass it means the maximum mass the towing vehicle can tow (mass of trailer + load in trailer) which may be less than the Gross Trailer Mass which is the total mass of the trailer fully laden ( mass of trailer + maximum load the trailer can carry) which could exceed the tow vehicle capacity
The ATM less the mass of the trailer is the maximum load you can legally put in the trailer regardless of the carrying capacity of the trailer
Cheers Kev
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 13:47

Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 13:47
ATM is the total loaded weight of the trailer as it sits on a weighbridge unhooked and on its own.

GTM is as it sits on a weighbridge hooked to the tow vehicle


The towball weight is usually but not always the difference between the two weights

The manufacturers would quote ATM as its always the highest weight that u would be towing

The Tare weight is the weight of the unloaded trailer.

The Tare weight plus its allowable load forms the ATM

EG My van originally had a Tare of 2164kg
Its Plated ATM was 2564
this gives the normal tandem vans allowable load of 400kg.
Single axle vans vary between 200-300kg depending on running gear.

I dont understand the above post by kev.h at all as the GTM can never be higher than the ATM.

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Follow Up By: kev.h - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 23:26

Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 23:26
yes Graham you are correct i should have re-read my post before submiting i transposed ATM and GTM in my post also forgot to mention the ball weight the post should have read

"When manufacturers quote Gross Trailer Mass it means the maximum mass the towing vehicle can tow (mass of trailer + load in trailer less - the ball weight) which may be less than the Aggregate Trailer Mass which is the total mass of the trailer fully laden ( mass of trailer + maximum load the trailer can carry) which could exceed the tow vehicle capacity
The ATM less the mass of the trailer is the maximum load you can legally put in the trailer regardless of the carrying capacity of the trailer "

i was trying to point out that whichever one they quopte should be the one you use but you explained it so much better

Sorry for the confusion
Kev
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Reply By: Flywest - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 01:06

Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 01:06
And to complicate matters - if you have a 5th wheel towing attachement and trailer configuration, then it alters again from what the manufacturers quote.

Often the difference between what downweight your tow hitch is rated for when loaded at 10% of GTM Gross Trailer Mass, (eg 350 kilos downpressure for a 3500 kilos GTM rated braked tandem trailer, on 50mm ball, with load levelrs weight distribution hitch and breakaway electric or vaccum operated brakes) is LESS than the payload capacity in the tray of ute with the 5th wheel hitch located over the back axel.

So typically 5th wheelers can tow more than a normal hitch.

Also - if you do happen to have a vehicle with a manufactirers rated tow capacity greater than the usual 3500 kilos of the big 4wds Like for example a Dodge or Ford light Truck with 4250 kilo tow capacitys - you can then use 70mm tow balls and the aforementioned devices to tow in excess of the 3500 kilos

You can be assured the Road Traffic Authority weighs and measures police - who have the portable digital scales will know for sure what the regs are for most combinations and have the ability on the side of hte highway to stop you and weigh you & issue the approprate fines etc.

Probably one of those guys would be the best possible source of good/reliable advice in this regard.

Cheers
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