Child Restraint in 80 Series

Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 20:46

Member - David Will (VIC)

Hi Gang,

Just found out we are going to have our first child.

We need to put a Child seat in to my 1993 STD 80 Series Cruiser, are the restraint point on the floor or roof.

There are 3 points on the roof and there are 4 hooks on the floor?

The roof would be a lot easier as l have a home made draw system fitted.

Has anyone got any idea's,

Thanks

David
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AnswerID: 377573   Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 20:49

Member - Stuart P (WA) replied:

use the floor mounts
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AnswerID: 377578   Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 21:40

Members Paul and Melissa (VIC) replied:

There are 3 points on the floor - 1 behind each seat, use them if you can.
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AnswerID: 377589   Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 22:45

Drew - Karratha replied:

Use the point in the roof so the baby seat (facing backwards) goes behind the front passenger seat - depending on the model seat you get you may have to buy a short extension to reach the restraint point and the passenger seat will have to be almost as far forward as it can go (this is why you cant put it behind the drivers seat - unless you want to be squashed up against the steering wheel...)

I dont think there are any restraint points in the floor of a standard 80 (mine is a standard '96 and i couldnt find any...)

I now have 2 baby seatis in the back........
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AnswerID: 377591   Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 22:59

Wherehegon replied:

Cant help with your question, but contratulations on your news. Hope all goes along nicely for your wife and yourself. Regards Steve M
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AnswerID: 377593   Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 04, 2009 at 23:28

Member - Murray R (VIC) replied:

David
There is a mob called LITTES and they fit child restraints in cars .Give them a ring on 1300 728 363 ,they might be able to answer your questions.

Murray
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AnswerID: 377594   Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 00:08

The Lobster replied:

The advice you have been given so far seems pretty iffy. You don't want to muck around with this sort of stuff, so let me set you straight. The four hooks on the rear floor would be towards the four corners of the area, yeah? They are cargo tie down hooks and are not intended for baby seat use. They would probably handle the load, but they're not designed for it, so don't use them.

The three in the roof just inside the rear door are the ones you need. Pull out the plastic plugs (you may need to screw them out) and you'll find threaded holes. Install a mounting bracket in the desired location and Bob is your proverbial uncle. You may need an extension strap for your seat/capsule, especially while it's in the backwards-facing position.

Now, before anyone argues, yes, some 80 series' have child restraint mounts on the rear floor. There was a thread on the LCOOL.org forums a couple of weeks back in which we attempted to work out which models/years have the floor mounts and which have the ceiling mounts. It seemed initially that the models with the 3rd row of seats have them on the floor, and the 6 seater models have the on the roof, but it now doesn't appear to be that simple. It appears that, basically, if you have threaded holes in the roof just inside the rear doors, those are your baby seat anchor points. If you have no holes in the roof, or if they are not threaded, then you will find some threaded holes in the rear floor instead.

Either way, don't use the cargo tie-down hooks, that's not what they're designed for.

Hope that helps.

matt
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FollowupID: 644958   Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 05:53

Hairs & Fysh (NSW) posted:

Hi Matt,
All good advice Matt. Is this the thread your referring to?
Child seat anchor points

David, become a member of the site, the guys are are wealth of knowledge when it comes to 80's. Not saying the guys here aren't ;)
Use the right anchor points, 1) for your child's safety, 2) and so your legal, 3) peace of mind, that you precious cargo is safe.
Besides, Insurance companies will find any reason not to pay.
An 80 makes a great family 4by, my three kids think its a mobile Jungle Gym. With the third row seats in, it becomes the local school bus :)

By the way, Congratulations, Hope all goes well,

Cheers




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FollowupID: 644975   Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 09:24

kevanancy posted:

Hi Matt,
I have a 93' GXL and the mounting points for child seat restraints in my vehicle are behind the 2nd row of seats . I actually poked a hole in my hood lining where the restraints mount in my friends 80 (91 model ) but the holes there in mine are not threaded . The Lobster gave you the right advice and congratulations .
Kev
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FollowupID: 644988   Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 10:33

The Lobster posted:

Yeah, that's the thread Jon.

We thought for a while that maybe the tail gate models have them in the floor and the barn door models have them in the roof, but that didn't seem to be uniform either, in the end.

It seems that the basic rule of thumb is, if there are no (threaded) holes in the roof, they'll be in the floor.

matt
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FollowupID: 645018   Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 12:40

Hairs & Fysh (NSW) posted:

Mine are in the roof, a screw out plug/cap.
Don't think I would like to fix a child seat restraint to the cargo/third row seat anchor points, Great for tying down the ice box or 3 way fridge, but not a child's seat or capsule.
Also, someone on lcool mentioned once that there should be wiring for a rear ceiling light for the back cargo area and to get another second row seat light and fit it. I have noticed it can be a bit dark in the back sometimes, apparently the Sahara had these.
Oh well, a job for a rainy day ;)

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FollowupID: 645020   Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 12:50

Best Off Road posted:

Lobster is 100% right.

Under no circumstances should you use the luggage hook points. They are only 6mm and I'd guess the captive nuts are nowhere near rated to the same load as dedicated child mount points.

Jim.

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AnswerID: 377606   Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 08:15

Member - Amy G (SA) replied:

I have a '97 Standard 80 series and my child seat points are on the roof.

If you have a drawer system and have the roof points, I would attach them there!
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AnswerID: 377653   Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 14:57

luckymum replied:

Lobster is 100% correct.

I am a qualified car restraint installer and I have installed restraints in every type of car around. Dont use the hooks on the floor, I see people do it all the time and its wrong and very dangerous. Use the anchor points up on the roof, if you dont have bolts already there there will be a plastic tab you can pick off and install one. If you use the ones up on the roof they wont get in the way of prams and other cargo.

If in doubt check the car manual under child restraints.

Hope that helps.....

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AnswerID: 377676   Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 05, 2009 at 18:51

Member - David Will (VIC) replied:

Thanks to All.

you have all helped me and answered my question, l have the anchor points up on the roof, which makes it easy for me.

I got a proper mount and put it in and had no problem at all.

I am getting in early as we are not due till early March but wanted to get everything organized before l need it.

Thanks again to all

David
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