Ironman Load Plus Helper Spring set up??

Submitted: Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 13:20
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Hey guys,

Had the 60 series Cruiser in for a suspension and steering check today before our trip away and was chatting to the the guy about rear sag of the Cruiser when we have our trailbike loaded on front of camper. (No sag when it us not loaded up)
He suggested we put on these Ironman Load Plus Helper Spring set up. Link below.

Is anyone familiar with this set up and what is your feedback??

http://www.ironman4x4.com/suspensionloadplus.html

Many thanks Megan
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Reply By: 60series_adventurer - Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 13:57

Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 13:57
or do u have another suggestion??
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Reply By: Rip64 - Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 14:06

Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 14:06
Put them on 03 Hilux dual cab for Gulf trip. Eliminated the sag and definetly improved steering when trip loaded. Simple self fit, bit rigid/stiff in rear when empty - but soon get used to that. Do Recommend
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Follow Up By: Rip64 - Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 18:17

Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 18:17
Yes, I had to cut back U bolts to suit travel and clearance. Hacksaw and lock nuts - Jobs right.
Maybe slightly more clearance with Hilux kit between U bolt dimension and spring leafs ????
Now with 1.4 tonne trailer - they really seem to help with any issue of sag.
Like I said I initially had a sag loaded for trips - Ironman helpers fixed problem.
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Reply By: Member - RobnJane(VIC) - Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 16:40

Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 16:40
Hi Megan,

We used a similar set up on the Navara however I was not happy with the actual interference between the u bolts used to mount the 'helper' spring and the chassis of the car.

When loaded and in 'hard' working conditions the 'helper' spring or its mounting hardware would contact the chassis. It is likely though that you will have more clearance in the rear chassis/axle area on the 60 series.

On the Ironman set up, I don't like the way the helper spring U bolt fits tight against one leaf, if it does fit like that on any spring the U bolt will inhibit the free movement/sliding of the spring.

We eventually opted for what we should have done in the first place, had the springs reset and added one leaf. This set-up works well for us.

Rgds,

Rob.
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Reply By: bbuzz - Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 20:20

Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 20:20
I have a 60 Disel and will be off next year on the Big Circle route. I was going to use Air bags for the support and give me an adjustment for when I am not towing.
Must be some guys out there who have been there with a 60 and have first hand experience?
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Follow Up By: Darrin - Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 20:54

Friday, Aug 07, 2009 at 20:54
I fitted air bags (poly air - the red ones) to my HZJ75 Troopy (3 ton+) but they didn't do the job very well. Ended up fitting OME (12 leaf) in 1999 - springs still going strong.
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Reply By: Member - David R (SA) - Saturday, Aug 08, 2009 at 09:48

Saturday, Aug 08, 2009 at 09:48
Hi Megan,

I fitted the Load Plus spring to my 60 series a month ago ( over OME 2" lift springs) and found them to be excellent. They can be adjusted to completely remove sag when loaded and they also greatly reduce body roll. They do stiffen the suspension when unloaded but I just back off the adjusting nuts 10 mm or so between outback trips which helps a lot. When first fitting I cut off excessive length of the U - bolts.

Cheers

David
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Reply By: Dave B ( BHQ NSW) - Saturday, Aug 08, 2009 at 22:12

Saturday, Aug 08, 2009 at 22:12
Megan,I have fitted Boss air bags to my 60.

I think they are great. When I hook the CT on, I put about 30 psi in them.
I think they have been tested to a few hundred psi, but I don't see that as being necessary in my case.

When I haven't got the CT on, I just let the air out if them. They don't have to have air in them all the time.

This way, I retain the ride characteristics of the original suspension without having to put up with a hard ride with altered spring rates.

I fitted mine, and they are quite easy to fit IMHO.

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Follow Up By: 60series_adventurer - Sunday, Aug 09, 2009 at 06:30

Sunday, Aug 09, 2009 at 06:30
I haven't researched the air bag system yet. What is the approx cost for something like that?
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Reply By: Dave B ( BHQ NSW) - Sunday, Aug 09, 2009 at 11:56

Sunday, Aug 09, 2009 at 11:56
Cost was about $500 roughly, probably not much more than getting a different spring setup really.

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Reply By: 60series_adventurer - Friday, Aug 21, 2009 at 19:35

Friday, Aug 21, 2009 at 19:35
Thanks for all your replies. Purchased set from their Brendale office for $125 and hubby and I successfully fitted ourselves in half an hour. (Local tyre shop quoted $350 to supply and fit) Only had to trim back the bolt on the passenger rear side to miss the exhaust pipe. Will post how they go on our trip when we get back. Thanks again
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Follow Up By: Rolly - Saturday, Aug 22, 2009 at 13:52

Saturday, Aug 22, 2009 at 13:52
60series_adventurer,

I'd be particularly interested in hearing of your experiences with them.
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Reply By: Member - Mfewster(SA) - Saturday, Aug 22, 2009 at 14:23

Saturday, Aug 22, 2009 at 14:23
Have a look at Aussie Suoer springs. A quite different princilple.
http://www.aussiesupersprings.com.au/
I added these to my 60 series about 4e years ago and have been very happy with the vastly improved cornering flatness; stability; load carrying and anti sag results. About $500.00
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