Cordial/Water

Submitted: Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 00:41
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Evening all, I was listening to Dr Karl on JJJ today (no I am not young, but I can't stand talk back radio). Anyway he was saying that in the eighties he and some friends did a trip up the CSR and a few other tracks and they went through something like 1.5 T of water. They sourced this from various wells etc which had items such as dead birds, lizards etc in them so the water was not all that flash. What they did was make a strong cordial mix with condensed cordial with artificial flavours and ingredients. Through the whole trip they had no problem with stomach upsets. Even though he is a medical doctor he could not explain what effect the cordial had but said that the more natural ingredient version was not as good. I am not advocating that everyone do a rush on Woolworths but it is interesting.

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Reply By: rocco2010 - Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 00:48

Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 00:48
Gidday

I think it is fairly well known that red cordial (preferrably the Anchor brand made right here in WA) is great for dodgy water. Something in the mix deals with the bugs. Other colours not so effective.

Back in the days before bottled water was all the go I knew people who would't leave for Bali without it

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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 01:30

Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 01:30
Yes Rocco, i remember the stuff - would kill anyone, let alone the bugs.

Doesn't sugar have germicidal properties? Rather than fill my diet with sugar, boiling is more effective on the stomach upsetting bugs. What's more, cordial has a habit of escaping from even a sealed bottle and spreading itself all through the 'larder' on rough roads.

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Follow Up By: rocco2010 - Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 01:39

Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 01:39
Hello Motherhen

Not recommending it! Not my drink at all! Haha

As an aside I picked up a bug on a trip in the Victoria Desert last year and another member of the party with a similar problem had raided the first aid box and taken off the with lomotil in his pocket and wasnt coming back. We had a nurse in the group and she pointed out that codeine is a very good "binder"

We had some painkillers with codeine and a couple of tablets a couple of times day dealt with the problem very well.

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Follow Up By: Fred G NSW - Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 07:54

Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 07:54
Your right about the codeine Rocco...that's why the pain killer panadeine forte is well known for its side affects of constipation, if taken for any length of time. (takes ones mind off the original problem LOL)

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Follow Up By: Member - Bucky - Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 11:11

Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 11:11
Rocco

When droppin in on various wells, in our recent trip along the Canning, and with a small bit of wisdom, we didn't drink from any wells that looked dodgy.

We drank copulous amounts of water from good wells, and there are enuf of them out there. There were tast tests done, visual and smell tests, and then it was flat out at it.
Never once did we have to boil water, using this method, mind you Bails (one of our travelling mates) put Gatorade, in everything. He can be excused as he is a tri-athelete, and they do strange things at times, like go goe 20 km bike rides in the CSR, for something to do.

Did not have to resort to anything else, and if my Lyn will drink the water out there, then it's fine. She won't even drink Wonthaggi town water without a filter.
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Follow Up By: rocco2010 - Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 14:35

Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 14:35
Gidday Buckly

It is amazing how much water there is on the Canning isnt it. we got water from wells 12 and 15 in 2007 and for safetys sake only the magic pills were used. I wouldn't doubt that is was OK, particularly when mixed with something medicinal from Scotland ...

Last year we travelled a different part of the CSR and and I wouldnt have been too keen to drink from 26, lots of algae in the water ...

If I have read it correctly you would have been part of the group that Vivienne C has been blogging abt ... If that's right perhaps you could pass on to her how much I have enjoyed reading it and the great photographs. particularly the Durba Hills pic from Cannings cairn. Brings back great memories

As an aside I used to work with a bloke from Wonthaggi, he was a great ambassador for the town always telling us how great it was and one of the funniest people I have ever met.


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Follow Up By: Member - Bucky - Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 07:38

Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 07:38
rocco
Yes that Viv was in our group, and we had a ball.
Her blogs are just as amazing, I doubt weather I will do any, as we did not keep an in-depth diary, like Viv did.
I tell you that woman has been crossed with a mountain goat. She is not affraid to tackle anything, and just a tad over 21, (hehehe)

So who was the bloke you worked with ?..... ask him is he knows Bryan O'Halloran
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Follow Up By: rocco2010 - Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 11:00

Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 11:00
Gidday Bucky

Bloke's name was Bruce Phillips I haven't heard of him for a few years now. It was inPerth in those days and last i heard he was back in Melbourne. Wouldn't be surprised if you at least knew OF him, he was larger than life and he loved Wonthaggi!

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Reply By: ozwasp - Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 02:22

Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 02:22
Half a chance isn't good enough in the bush

Think I'll stick with water purifying tablets
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Follow Up By: Member - Timbo - Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 14:08

Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 14:08
Have to agree - it's not worth taking a chance with dodgy water.

Purifying tablets are much easier to carry too (lighter, more compact, etc.)
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Reply By: Member - Ed. C. (QLD) - Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 03:47

Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 03:47
Raspberry cordial is the go ;-)

Bali Belly and Raspberry Cordial

Raspberries on the run

Raspberry Cordial Antidote to Gastro

It (the cordial) should be made with at least 35% real raspberry juice, and not the 'raspberry flavoured' stuff you're most likely to find on the supermarket shelf, the juice content of which is mainly apple juice...

Something in the raspberries (anti-oxidants??) apparently, which has been demonstrated to actually work in killing certain bacteria..

SWMBO always carry some raspberry juice concentrate when we go bush ;-)

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Follow Up By: Member - Ed. C. (QLD) - Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 14:23

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Reply By: Member - Mick O (VIC) - Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 08:40

Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 08:40
Many pigfarmers used Rasberry cordial concentrate as an antibiotic for their stock in years gone by.

Still doesn't beat filtering the water or boiling it before drinking. Can take a lot of the worry out of it. A case of gardia is not a pleasant thing.

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Follow Up By: Member - Lionel A (WA) - Saturday, Nov 14, 2009 at 16:02

Saturday, Nov 14, 2009 at 16:02
Spot on mate,

We had a pet pig for many years, our old school vet suggested we give her a bowl of rasberry cordial once a week. She loved the stuff and never had a crook day in her life.

Mind you, she was partial to the occasional bucket of scotch and coke....lol.

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Reply By: signman - Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:41

Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:41
Cottees supply the Army with Red cordial powder for that reason. Packed in green 'ration pack'.....I have a few packs in our vehicle all the time !!

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Reply By: Member - evren1 (WA) - Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 19:31

Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 19:31
I would rather die of thirst than deal with my 3 1/2 yr old on red cordial.
absolute troppo mania !
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Reply By: Notso - Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 19:44

Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 19:44
Yep you'd be better off drinking the water as it was.

Raspberry cordial as we know it is mostly sugar and water with some flavours and colours and fruit acid, Citric. There may well be some apple or pear juice in it as well.

You'd be lucky if they waved a couple of raspberries over the top of the vat before they bottled it
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Follow Up By: PradOz - Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 20:51

Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 20:51
Hence Reply Number 3 above
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Reply By: Fred G NSW - Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 21:07

Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 21:07
Growing up in the outback (Mt.Doreen Stn on the Tanami) in the 50's, I have memories of cordial never being far from the water bottle. Don't recall raspberry, but lots of lemon and pineapple. Don't know if it was for water quality improvement or taste improvement for the brackish bore water. Maybe that's why to this day I still don't drink a lot of plain water, mainly tea or other flavour enhanced H2O :-))

In the words of our late & great Slim Dusty, "I've seen what it does to the bottom of boats".

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Reply By: KiwiAngler - Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 21:55

Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 21:55
Not too sure about raspberry cordial - so I put my trust in one of these

Miniworks Ceramic Filter

and if I am bushwalking one of these Steripen

havent so far (touch wood) had the jelly belly :-)
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 23:25

Friday, Nov 13, 2009 at 23:25
Well can vouch for the fact that boiling it doesnt help a lot.

In the 60's I worked on the Milford Track in Fiordland NZ

We went up to the top of the Mckinnon pass and decided to make a hot drink.

No one had been there for 6 months.

Made a Milo and the water tasted funny.

Looked in the tank and there was two dead Keas reduced to skeletons.

Well Ive had a colonoscopy but 1 k down the track and boy did it clean us out,

Much better and faster as well.

Both ends at once and still 5k to walk home.

Moral of the story Check the tanks first





ROFL but not that day.
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Follow Up By: Member - Lionel A (WA) - Saturday, Nov 14, 2009 at 16:24

Saturday, Nov 14, 2009 at 16:24
Giday Graham,

Did a lot of tramping in the area when I was a young bloke, can still remember the fresh water streams we used to come across, cool moss filtered nectar.

Would kill to have some of that stuff in my scotch now.

Just out of interest, seem to remember quite a few years ago, there was a bit of controversy over a plan to export fresh Fiordland water to the Middle East.
Did this ever happen ?


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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Saturday, Nov 14, 2009 at 18:02

Saturday, Nov 14, 2009 at 18:02
I honestly dont know, remember the fuss but cant remember if it happened.

Is plenty of water though at 360 inches a year average.

The plan if I rember correctly was to ship it out of Doubtfull Sound in empty tankers.

Would be lovely fresh clean water shipped in empty oil tankers NOT

Hahahahahahahahaha


Can t find anything much on google will ask some friends over there and see what I get.
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