Submitted: Sunday, Jan 24, 2010 at 18:08
Last year I sold my Kimberley
Kamper - to a stronger man!
I am now looking for an "easier" solution - something with good under canvas / awning, and that is easy and quick to set up.
I have a 2007 3.0ltr Prado diesel. So limited to 2.5 t. towing capacity.
I have seen the Quantum. It is pretty stark to look at (particularly inside), but the kitchen looks pretty good and I like that it's outside. I also like the internal shower / toilet and that the van tracks pretty much only as wide as the car. I have seen the extended canvas set-up - it looks way easier than the Kimberley
Kamper to set-up.
BUT - it's expensive. North of $70k.
Also, I don't yet have a feel for how it will perform off-road, particularly in the Vic High Country
and local deserts.
I have seen the Topaz - not overly keen on it. And I am not inspired by the Kimberley
Karavan's awning set-up.
Q1 - Has anyone seen anything else that covers my bases.
Q2 - Does anyone have a comment on its off-road capabilities.
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Reply By: Motherhen - Sunday, Jan 24, 2010 at 19:48
Sunday, Jan 24, 2010 at 19:48
Hi Chris AL
For $70,000 you could get a pre-loved all roads caravan with no setting up to do! Even one of those little old tiny Supreme
pop tops with rear door (but no bathroom) would go most places
the KK would.
I can't comment on any of the other 'hybrid campers'.
Reply By: Scott C (Coolum - QLD) - Sunday, Jan 24, 2010 at 22:48
Sunday, Jan 24, 2010 at 22:48
Have a look at the Gunyah by ozzie off road, I dont know anything about them but came across the web site when I was looking for vans with external kitchens.
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Sunday, Jan 24, 2010 at 23:24
Sunday, Jan 24, 2010 at 23:24
These guys build a simmilar product, no idea of the price.
Reply By: Member - Bruce T (SA) - Monday, Jan 25, 2010 at 01:23
Monday, Jan 25, 2010 at 01:23
Sold our Kimberley
last October. Went for a VistaRV. No canvas, has an outside ktchen, and co-designed by the designer of the Tvan. We have already done 12,000 kms in it and are very pleased with it.
We also looked at the Quantum and Topaz and had similar thoughts to you.
Google VistaRV or Crossover vans. There are a couple of good sites to get you started with your research. Priced at about $55,000 now. That seems a lot for such a small camper/van, but it will go anywhere and be dust proof.
Follow Up By: Gronk - Tuesday, Jan 26, 2010 at 22:29
Tuesday, Jan 26, 2010 at 22:29
We have a KK and have looked at these campers as well.....
Good points....no canvas....low tare weight...go anywhere
Bad points.....no hotplate inside ( just to do a cuppa maybe ? )...no option to fit an innerspring ( can't fold up to make way for the table )...no flyscreen for the door ( or is there now ?? )....and of course , price !!
How have you found these above points ??
Reply By: wafarmer - Monday, Jan 25, 2010 at 04:03
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Reply By: Who was that again? (Vic) - Tuesday, Jan 26, 2010 at 23:26
Tuesday, Jan 26, 2010 at 23:26
Chris, you make comment that you aren't inspired by the Kimberley
Karavan awning set up. I wonder what awning you are talking about as there are other options. We tend to carry a bag awning made by Fiamma as one of our options with a pretty rigid frame.
I think a lot of places
around the High Country, the grip you can get from the tyres of the Prado will restrict what you can pull, and that doesn't account for any stated towing capacity. That means nothing on steep tracks.
We have towed the Karavan in some places
but I debate with myself whether we would pull up certain tracks. There are some that are too steep to get traction. I know also that a guy with a 200 struggled with his torque converter in low/low, so I doubt a Prado would do better.
Reply By: Member - Gouger (Vic) - Thursday, Jan 28, 2010 at 17:16
Thursday, Jan 28, 2010 at 17:16
Have a look at www.vistarv.com.au. A standout option that exceeds easily the Topaz ( height and build quality? and KK ( too much stuff to go wrong).- on road for circa $55,000. Your vehicle will easily handle tow ball weight and GVM. I have one and can't be happier. The build quality is extremely high.