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Submitted: Saturday, Jan 20, 2001 at 00:00

Trevor Kilner

Having developed a fetish for corners like Cameron, Haddon, Poeppel and Surveyor General corners my life is in tatters until I locate the “corner,” if there is one, at the intersection of NSW, Victoria and South Australia.
According to maps the eastern boundary of South Australia is not a straight line.
Does anyone know if there is such a “corner” and if so how do you get there?
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AnswerID: 141   Submitted: Saturday, Jan 20, 2001 at 00:00

Joseph Baz replied:

Trevor we share something in common my wife keeps on saying it is no possible for some one to be traumatized by corners I been planning a trip to all the corners for quiet some time,i have been around OZ 3 times but ths is something more ordinary than normal(extra ordinary) Im waiting to see the replies
Cheers Joe
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FollowupID: 8   Submitted: Saturday, Jan 20, 2001 at 00:00

Trevor Kilner posted:

Joseph,
I think traumatized may be safer than having a fetish!
We have done Haddon and Cameron Corners and are off to Poeppel Corner this winter and Surveyor General next year.
I know we are all mad as we drive 4WDs but some one has to do it.
Have you had a good look at the maps for the Victoria/NSW corner, or is it just me?

Trev
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AnswerID: 145   Submitted: Sunday, Jan 21, 2001 at 00:00

Stephen Frawley replied:

The SA/VIC border was mistakenly surveyed a few
kms west of where it should be. It was put right
where it reached the Murray near the old Customs
House, up from Renmark. As a result, there is a
dog-leg in the border at that point. The corner
you want is a few kms upstream from the Customs
House where the NSW border meets the Murray.
Incidentally, the little triangle formed by the
dog-leg is the only place in Victoria where you
can look EAST into SA.
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FollowupID: 10   Submitted: Sunday, Jan 21, 2001 at 00:00

Camper posted:

The SA VIC border is very interesting. I understand that because of inaccurate time pieces attempts to plot the longitude gave 3 different answers. In the late 1840s a line was surveyed that became the accepted border. In the late 1860s a new survey with better equipment showed the correct location to be a couple of miles east. Vic had some of SA and didnt want to give it up so they headed for the courts. this disputed area turned into a haven for those on the wrong side of the law. In 1914 the privy council ruled that the border was in the wrong place but that it should stay there. I believe the two states have agreed to work towards re-locating the border. Does anyone have any further info on how this is progressing ?
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FollowupID: 11   Submitted: Monday, Jan 22, 2001 at 00:00

Trevor Kilner posted:

Hi Stephen,
Thanx for that info. Is the site marked in some way and is it possible to get there?
Regards,

Trev
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FollowupID: 12   Submitted: Monday, Jan 22, 2001 at 00:00

Stephen Frawley posted:

Easy to get there by boat, but maybe not so easy by 4WD. You would have to be on the Wentworth-Renmark road (on the northern side of the river), then try and follow the border (141E) south to the river. My map shows a whole lot of wet-looking country along the direct path, but you may be able to get there indirectly. Alternatively, there seems to be a road on the south side of the river heading northeast from Paringa through a place called Lindsay Point, which is only about 10kms south of the corner. However, this may not be exactly what you want as I believe that the actual NSW/Vic border is on the northern bank of the Murray.
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AnswerID: 159   Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 31, 2001 at 00:00

Brendon Hall replied:

There is no corner as such. I may be corrected, but the 3 state borders do not actually intersect. A check of the map will show this.The Victorian border is a point on the southern bank (Victorian/NSW border) of the Murray River where the South Aus. border intersects. I believe this point was re-established recently by the Victorian Government Survey Office. I dont know whether a mark was placed. The original survey was conducted by a party led by Surveyor White.
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AnswerID: 234   Submitted: Thursday, Mar 01, 2001 at 00:00

Trevor Kilner replied:

Thanx for the replies however there must be a point where NSW, Vic and SA meet on the southern side of the Murray. South Australians would have to get there by boat?
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FollowupID: 38   Submitted: Saturday, Mar 03, 2001 at 00:00

Stephen Frawley posted:

There is - its on the southern bank of the
Murray opposite where the SA/NSW border meets
the northern bank. At this point, if you sit on
the bank with your feet in the water, your right
foot is in NSW, your left foot is in SA, and your
backside is in Vic.
(This is assuming that the NSW/Vic border and the
SA/Vic border are on the southern bank).
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AnswerID: 241   Submitted: Sunday, Mar 04, 2001 at 00:00

Trev replied:

Hi Steve,
Thanx for that. Do you know if there is, or will be a marker? Is the site on private land and if there is any public access. I need a photo to add to my collection.

Regards,

Trev
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FollowupID: 39   Submitted: Sunday, Mar 04, 2001 at 00:00

Stephen Frawley posted:

Sorry Trev, I havent been there. The easiest way
to get there would be by boat from the old Customs
House north of Renmark. Just go upstream for about
3 kms until you reach 141E longitude.
Elura Houseboats (08 8595 8063) operate from the
Customs House - they may know if there is a marker.
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