Common misconceptions regarding seasons

Hi all

It is becoming more and more frustrating that people, even in the forums here, have been informed that certain ntimes of the year are unsuitable for travel through the NW of WA.

I have lived in this area my entire life, just over 50 years, and in the SE Kimberleys we have had no real substantial wet for a long time. I have continuously travelled through to Kununurra, Fitzroy Crossing, Halls Creek, Turkey Creek and many places in between. I have only a 4 cylinder 2000 Hilux, and have no trouble.

The mai Highway that goes to Kununurra has been substantially rebuilt, and is passable in all seasons. Sure, when cyclone alerts are on, shelter MUST be taken, but they are not a common event, and rarely would anyone get caught unless they were absolutely foolish.

The "wet" and immediately after is when the area shows its best, yet people will not travel for fear of bad weather. Perhaps it is time for people to understand that it is only the unsealed roads that are affected, and they are graded and worked so frequently that it is rare for someone not to be able to get throuigh.

One last thing. Bruce Farrands and his wife Jacquie are permanently closing their doors at Rabbit Flats Roadhouse on December 31st this year. It is an icon, and it will not be around much longer for people to experience the remote roadhouse that is there.
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Reply By: The Landy - Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 08:32

Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 08:32
Hi Marc

You make a very good and valid point here. I grew up in North Queensland and the ‘best’ season was always the ‘wet season’ as the countryside was at its best.

These days we all seem to want to travel when it is dry, but we don’t get to see it at its best!

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Reply By: pmk03 - Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:21

Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:21
G'Day,
My first real trip around Australia started way back in the early 1980's & not knowing much about anything to do with the northern wet & dry seasons back then, I left Melbourne in summer. I travelled trough most of FNQ & across to Darwin & the Kimberley in the Wet season....... Still a very memorable trip & one of the best I have done over the years.
A little more experience these days has us travelling in the northern "dry" seasons, more for the comfort & good weather than anything. But I have to agree that the Wet does show this country in it's best. My Daughter has asked can we do a northern trip in the wet & I'm thinking about it too.
Sad to see Rabbit Flat is closing...... I Think it's been talked about for a while now. Another outback Icon to dissapear. The characters & places that make up this great travelling experience are all slowly dissappearing.....
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:49

Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:49
Exploroz has attached an article to your post which reads -

"This region is ravaged by a tropical wet season from late October - mid April and cyclones are common from January - March"

Maybe see if you can get them to tone it down a bit.
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Follow Up By: Member - Marc Luther B (WA) - Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 19:26

Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 19:26
Hi Robin

No I feel that what they have put there is quite valid. Cyclones are very dangerous and can be extremely unpredictable. What I am prepared to do is anticipate that a great site such as this could be used positively to inform people of the type of precautions they should take, and the contact points they can make to find out weather conditions.

Such would allow for safe travelling.

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Reply By: OzTroopy - Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:12

Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:12
Ohhhhh ... c'mon Marc ....

Surely your not suggesting its OK for all those fairweather fourwheeldrives to go out and get all the fancy fitted fashion accessories wet & muddy now ... are you ???

Or expect people to sit around experiencing reality for a few days because of weather conditions - instead of maintaining their hi-speed travel itineray ???

ahhhhh .... memories of waiting at NQ & NT causeways for a semi to show up .... so I could tailgate them through the water in the old one-tonner.


But your right about season misconceptions .... Why would hordes descend upon the snowy to frolick about in that mongrel, wet and cold, white stuff ... yet be worried about a drop of rain up north ...

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Follow Up By: Member - Marc Luther B (WA) - Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 19:39

Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 19:39
Hi OzToopy

Okay, okay. Shame on me for suggesting people get actual dirt on their vehicles. Just when I have given up hope oif ever keeping mine clean for more than a full day.

Such is life

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Reply By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 13:33

Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 13:33
Hi Marc,
From our point of view as a publisher with 1 million site visitors per month, there'a lot that would be dreaming of a trip to the Kimberley, and when they go it could even be the first time they have left the city so their ability to cope with the wet season is very different to someone with years of living in the bush, or Europe!. It's not just the roads, but the humidity, the need to be more careful with water consumption, the discomfort factor etc.Try telling people to stick to the bitumen when they see all the highlights (in media, treknotes, documentaries etc) are offroad.
For people that do have an understanding / or experience we can read between the lines of what is published in a widely available free publication and go whereever and whenever it suits us. IMHO I think the issue is just publishers duty of care but thank you for some insights into your experiences as a local.
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Follow Up By: jdwynn (Adelaide) - Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 14:52

Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 14:52
Michelle, I understand where you are coming from. Years ago as a uni student I used to work at Waikerie picking apricots over each summer and it was always 35-40degC from memory - riverland always several degrees hotter than Adelaide. Anyway had an guy come up fresh from the UK (backpacker maybe), lasted till lunchtime the first day - last we saw of him. And was it a Spanish guy who wanted to cross the Simpson in January a few years ago - lots of EO members pretty concerned - after lots of criticism he finally got the message. So I agree you have to be careful about what you publish. Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Marc Luther B (WA) - Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 19:22

Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 19:22
Hi David and Michelle

I do hear what you are saying, and yes, experience does count for a lot. I am still of the mind that a great site such as this could inform people of the possible problems, including water consumption and the like that you have correctly mentioned.

I have been through 9 cyclones, the worst being Rosita, and would never advise anyone to travel during such times. People in cyclone areas have no hesitation letting people know when such is around, and will ALWAYS help the inexperienced. FESA also does a wonderful job of advising people, and if required, closing all roads during the appropriate times.

I recall specifically stating that it is not the heat which causes the problems, but the humidity, which literally drains fluid out of the body.

I am saying that if well planned, it is during such times that one sees the area at it best, greenest, and with abundant wildlife and birdlife.

Where I live, the nearest bitumen is about 300 km's away, on corrugated unsealed roads, but I wouldn't have it any different, feel free to check Mulan, (Lake Gregory) on the GPS or map. We have helped people stuck, after which we share some advice, but we would never encourage anyone to go where it takes years of experience to go.

I know your warnings are valid, but I believe so are my comments.

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Follow Up By: Crackles - Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 19:45

Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 19:45
"have been through 9 cyclones...........would never advise anyone to travel during such times."
The problem Marc is the vast majority of people touring are travelling on annual leave or have time restrictions that simply don't allow for waiting on rivers to drop or a cyclone to clear. While it's nice to have a green country side the heat & humidity often make it unbearable for those not accustomed to it. For many these are trips of a lifetime so why risk missing some of the best attractions by sticking to the main road during what can be an unstable time of the year?
Cheers Craig.............
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Follow Up By: Member - Marc Luther B (WA) - Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 19:53

Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 19:53
Hi Crackles

What you say is more than fair and reasonable. I accept that those of us born and rasied in this area have a different physical tolerance to the conditions, but then I reckon snow is for eskimoes.

I cannot understand why someone would plan a trip to an area, and not give themselves heaps of time to travel through and really experience the area, but then I am not a big one for travelling around yet. Time will come when the wife and I look at more of this beautiful country.

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Follow Up By: Crackles - Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 20:12

Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 20:12
Being a snow lover my reasoning is you can always put more cloths on when it's cold but you can't peel your skin off when it's stinking hot. I said to a Queensland freind you must live in your pool in summer. They said no, the temp in the pool gets over 30 degrees in summer like a hot bath :-) That was enough to put me off.
I do like your reasoning though that rather than tell people "don't come up in the wet season", inform them instaed of what to expect, where you can go & what precautions should be taken. If for no other reason it would be a great time to travel without the crowds.
Cheers Craig.............
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Follow Up By: Member - Marc Luther B (WA) - Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 20:26

Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 20:26
Hi Craig (Crackles)

Aint it fantastic that we are all so different. Life would be damned boring if we were all the same. I suffer terribly in the cold, no matter how much clothing, yet I work freely in 50 - 55 degree dry heat, and humidity has never bothered me.

30 degrees my friend I would be still wearing my jacket, that is not hot. Anything under 20 and it is time to put a fire on.

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Follow Up By: Member - Old Girl (QLD) - Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 22:01

Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 22:01
Canning and Tanami, Marc I reckon you would be one of the most permanent remote EO members.
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Follow Up By: Member - Marc Luther B (WA) - Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 22:29

Thursday, Aug 19, 2010 at 22:29
Hi Old Girl

Yes, I do live quite remote. You can locate Mulan Community, where I live, near Lake Gregory, in the Great Sandy Desert, and that will show you where I am.

I will take your comment as a valid observation, though I reckon there would be other extremely remote members as well. The Canning Stock Route, as the crow flies, is 75 Km West of us, and the Tanami 70 Km NNW of us. I would give the GPS olocation, but I believe that is on my profile, which you have obviously read, by some of your previous kind remarks.

As pointed out to me in a couple of messages, I have a little experience with remote travel, and travelling in all sorts of seasons and weather, so hopefully I can help some people now and then with a bit of advice.

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