sa, nsw and vic boarder

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Bowks

Hi, does anyone know if it is possible to get to the border point of these NSW, Vic and SA? I hear this is on private property. Any info would be great. Thanks.

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Reply By: Dasherdes - Monday, Oct 03, 2011 at 19:52

Monday, Oct 03, 2011 at 19:52

G'day Bowks, yes the property where the three states meet is on private property and it's not easy to get permission to go on the property. If you have a tinny or even a canoe/kayak, it's not that far from the old Customs House. There is a fabricated sign there but you would need to keep a sharp eye out from the river side. If I can find a photo of the sighn, I'll post it later.

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Al

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Follow Up By: Andrew & Jen - Monday, Oct 03, 2011 at 20:05

Monday, Oct 03, 2011 at 20:05

Hullo Bowks
My understanding is that the NSW/Vic border is on the southern bank (Vic side) of the river.
The only corner of the 3 states is therefore where the NSW/SA border from the north meets the southern (Vic) river bank. This is a long way up the river from the Old Customs House.
As Al says, a dinghy + O/B is probably necessary as in a wet year at least, the adjacent swamps would present a problem.
If anyone knows an access point to the river nearby, it is probably Stephen L or Mick O - or some local fishers :-)
Cheers
Andrew

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Follow Up By: Dasherdes - Monday, Oct 03, 2011 at 21:41

Monday, Oct 03, 2011 at 21:41

The closest public boat ramp is at the Customs House at the end of Murtho Road. Access Murtho Road on the Eastern side of the Paringa Bridge at Paringa.
The closest point on the Border Track is on the Lindsay Creek Road and you can only head south from this point. Interesting point on this part of the track is that there is a dog leg in the fence where you can stand in SA and look "westwards" and look into Victoria.

Cheers

Al

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Follow Up By: Fred G NSW - Monday, Oct 03, 2011 at 21:55

Monday, Oct 03, 2011 at 21:55

Further to Andrew's reply, I have always understood that the NSW/VIC border along the river is actually the current waterline on the southern bank. Therefore, if you have one foot in the sand, and one foot in the water you have one foot in each state. So, does that mean in flood times, NSW actually encroaches further south than in drought times ???

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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Tuesday, Oct 04, 2011 at 00:26

Tuesday, Oct 04, 2011 at 00:26

"I have always understood that the NSW/VIC border along the river is actually the current waterline on the southern bank."

I think you will find it is the top of the bank. That stops all argument as river levels change. I have also seen maps showing the border along the few kilometres between the NSW border and the SA border in the middle of the river.

Remember the NSW and Vic borders do not line up. When they came to surveying the NSW border they had more accurate time keeping. The electrical telegraph was in existence at the time. The surveyors used this to correct their watches in conjunction with the observatories in Sydney and Adelaide. As a result the NSW border was correctly located.

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Follow Up By: Andrew & Jen - Tuesday, Oct 04, 2011 at 09:13

Tuesday, Oct 04, 2011 at 09:13

Hullo Al
I think you are right about the nearest official boat ramp being near Murtho.
From there, the corner of NSW, Vic and SA would be about 7nm (~12 km) upstream.
Of course there may well be "un-official" ones nearer off the Lindsay Creek Road through private property
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Follow Up By: Zebra400 - Friday, Oct 07, 2011 at 04:30

Friday, Oct 07, 2011 at 04:30

The official point is actually in the middle of the river. The Vic/NSW border is the southern side of the river, but the Vic/SA border is the middle of the river, so the point where are 3 states meet is the middle of the river.

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Reply By: Bowks - Monday, Oct 03, 2011 at 20:21

Monday, Oct 03, 2011 at 20:21

Thanks for all your info guys. Appreciate it.

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Reply By: Mick O - Monday, Oct 03, 2011 at 21:52

Monday, Oct 03, 2011 at 21:52

Probably the best and closest bet these days is to come in from the Chowilla Game Reserve on the other side of the river from Renmark. There a some great camping spots on the Hancock and Chowilla Creeks which would provide easy access to the Murray. I'm not sure of what the boating regs are on the reserve though. From there it's a fairly short hop by boat up stream. It's many years since I did it and we came downstream in tinnies from Mildura. Lock nine at Cullulleraine would be another option but a much longer trip.

The old Riverboat navigation maps are a great help and still available at many tourist/souvenir shops along the river. Makes it easy to avoid all the creeks, billabongs and horseshoe bends. There are still navigation marks and mileage markers along the river. Otherwise, take your GPS.

We were unable to get into the river around Kulkyne last week due to the high water levels. With the river still on the rise, it might well be a trip for next year.

Cheers,

Mick