tyre pressure monitors

Submitted: Tuesday, Jun 16, 2009 at 19:00
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hi all has any one used one of these tpms
www.orange-electronic.com ? if so are they any good? any feed back would be appreciated. thanks
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Reply By: Peter_n_Margaret - Tuesday, Jun 16, 2009 at 20:03

Tuesday, Jun 16, 2009 at 20:03
Personally I would not use that style.
1. I prefer the valve stems that I have.
2. Flat tyre = tyre sensor smashed?

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Follow Up By: zacc - Tuesday, Jun 16, 2009 at 20:21

Tuesday, Jun 16, 2009 at 20:21
the stems are steel or alloy and can you explain how the sensor would be smashed with a flat tyre please
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Reply By: Member - barry F (NSW) - Tuesday, Jun 16, 2009 at 20:21

Tuesday, Jun 16, 2009 at 20:21
Hi Peter, but if the system worked as it was meant to, wouldn't you be alerted to a problem prior to the tyre going flat, unless of course you had a blow out?
Would you mind giving a bit more info on the system that you use. Thanks & cheers
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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Wednesday, Jun 17, 2009 at 08:17

Wednesday, Jun 17, 2009 at 08:17
They protrude a long way through the rim and are totally 'exposed'.
I also understad that extreme care is neded to change a tyre without damaging them and if that job is done my some kid on his first day...........

I would dearly love a set of monitors, but I reccon the technology has to develop a bit more first.
The external valve styles are too vulnerable in the bush (and the street) and could not possibly give good temperature information.

The 'strap to the wheel well' ones appeal most to me, but with all steel tyres, I need a reciever under the vehicle and am concerned about the life/cost of the non replaceable batteries.

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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Wednesday, Jun 17, 2009 at 09:03

Wednesday, Jun 17, 2009 at 09:03
Hi Peter,
I agree 100% with your observation.

In my opinion valves, valve stems and caps are the same as tyres, consumables.

Also as you say, how can a valve cap spinning in an air stream external to what it is measuring give accurate temperature information? Unless it has an infra red detector under it that can fire through the valve stem there is no way it is even half accurately measuring tyre temperature!

Have you looked at any particular brands that are strapped to the rim?

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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Wednesday, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:45

Wednesday, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:45
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Tuesday, Jun 16, 2009 at 20:45

Tuesday, Jun 16, 2009 at 20:45
I have a set of Kysonix screw on sensors Have saved me the cost of two tyres on the van so far so have payed their way.

Have a look at Dereks site www.sidewinder.com.au He sells smilar to mine at a good price.

I have 8 sensors with mine and the only trouble I have had is sometimes the

back l/h ones drop out due I think to the receiver mounted on the r/h side of

the dash which is as far away from them it can be.

The r/h ones have never dropped out so think that I have sorted the problem.

Too much metal between sensor and receiver.

They can be individually set for different pressures so the van and car are 15lb different.

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Reply By: Dan - Yal - Tuesday, Jun 16, 2009 at 23:48

Tuesday, Jun 16, 2009 at 23:48
Sorry Zacc,
I cant comment on the TPMS you mentioned but I can certainly vouch for the "Air Aware" TPMS we got from Repco. 40,000km including Gibb etc and they worked a treat. Easy to operate and plenty of warning on the odd slow leaking tyre.
There are quite a few brands to consider.

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Follow Up By: Gone Bush (WA) - Wednesday, Jun 17, 2009 at 13:28

Wednesday, Jun 17, 2009 at 13:28
The retro-fit kit sold under that name:

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appears to be identical to the TPMS that Toyota is selling as an accessory for the LC200.

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Reply By: Member - The Crow (QLD) - Wednesday, Jun 17, 2009 at 06:43

Wednesday, Jun 17, 2009 at 06:43
We have sensatyre on both our van and 4x4 can't fault them have done over 30000ks with them, 20000k of that towing the van. You set the max temp, max and min Psi and if the tyres go out of these parameters an alarm sounds then you pull up and check the wheel that caused the alarm and before any major damage. Our Current van is a 24ft offroad Paradise Explorer XL no dramas.
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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Wednesday, Jun 17, 2009 at 08:57

Wednesday, Jun 17, 2009 at 08:57
Hi Crow,

Do you have the valve stem type sensors or the strap on sensors?

I've been looking for someone that can supply the strap on style sensors and was wondering were you got your system from and which sensor type you chose.

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Follow Up By: Member - The Crow (QLD) - Wednesday, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:23

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They are the stem type. Got them from Hannibal Safari Equipment PH Peter on 0733242611.
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Reply By: Tenpounder (SA) - Wednesday, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:55

Wednesday, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:55
Hi there. Just a quick comment: I use the valve stem type (Tyredog) and it is more to do with picking the change in pressure (or temperature) than in absolute accuracy. I saved a tyre on my first trip because of this.
I don't like the vulnerability of the valve stem type, but I do like the ability to easily put the sender on the spare wheel after a tyre change. I personally remove the senders in the dune country, since I don't want to lose them, and I don't think there's as much value in pressure senders when you're running 16 PSI anyway!
I don't much like the idea of having to remove the tyres to fit the senders, and I don't like the idea of risking damage when changing a tyre. With the valve stem type, I can remove the senders before I visit the tyre depot, and replace them afterwards.
My main bitch with these things is the constant stream of information that I would rather not know about (ignorance is bliss!) like rear tyres heating up when heavily loaded, or how you're supposed to heed the 4 PSI rule without pumping your tyres up to 60 PSI!
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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Wednesday, Jun 17, 2009 at 13:09

Wednesday, Jun 17, 2009 at 13:09
Everynew car sold in the USA now has a TPMS on the 4 wheels. What system do the manufacturers use i wonder? Michael


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Reply By: Gone Bush (WA) - Wednesday, Jun 17, 2009 at 13:09

Wednesday, Jun 17, 2009 at 13:09
A friend of ours is towing a caravan from Cape Byron to Steep Point at the moment and phoned us from somewhere on the Plenty the other day.

He has a TPMS setup and this is what he did. He bought two of the 4 wheel sensor Tyredog kits. He puts one receiver on the steering wheel column for the vehicle and the other monitor in front of his wife for the caravan.

Strangely enough, and very fortunately, none of the sensors interfere with any of the sensors from the other kit.

One of the van tyres started to leak and he was able to stop and apply two plugs before it totally deflated and incurred any damage.

That's a pretty good arrangement I thought.

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Follow Up By: Tenpounder (SA) - Wednesday, Jun 17, 2009 at 13:16

Wednesday, Jun 17, 2009 at 13:16
That's interesting, so thanks. I am not sure about these frequency issues: the Tyredog setup I use has the same nominal frequency range as the TwoZone wireless thermometer, so I've been waiting for the Tyredog system to turn up the Engel, but it hasn't happened yet!! You might have just given me the alibi to buy a second set of Tyredogs!!
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Follow Up By: Moto - Wednesday, Jun 17, 2009 at 13:49

Wednesday, Jun 17, 2009 at 13:49
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Interesting idea that your friend has bought two Units and has no problems using them.

I wonder how you would go with only four Sensors, but install two on the rear wheels of the vehicle and the other two on the Trailer wheels. It's probably not recommended but with the front tyres you could feel a signifant change in pressure whereas the others are much harder to detect.

Just a though and would be interested to hear any comments.

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Follow Up By: Tenpounder (SA) - Wednesday, Jun 17, 2009 at 14:23

Wednesday, Jun 17, 2009 at 14:23
Yes, Moto, I have had exactly the same thought myself, and I can't see why not. I had though of putting the rear wheel senders on the trailer axle, and the front wheel senders on the rear of the towing vehicle and, as you say, relying on feedback to detect problems with front wheel problems.
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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Wednesday, Jun 17, 2009 at 20:09

Wednesday, Jun 17, 2009 at 20:09
Had a dealer tell me that they fitted 2 of the sensors to ANOTHER car and then found that they still worked a couple of 00 metres apart.

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Follow Up By: RV Systems Pty Ltd - Friday, Jun 19, 2009 at 08:55

Friday, Jun 19, 2009 at 08:55
Hi I am the Australian distributor for US made PressurePro Tyre Pressure Management Systems. This system has external sensors for ease of installation, lock nuts are available to prevent theft and inadvertent loss. Up to 64 tyres can be monitored from the in-cabin display unit.

See my add in the Accessories Trader section for more information.

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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Friday, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:04

Friday, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:04
You dont need two expensive Tyredog sets

Go to www.kysonix.com and pick the one you want.

I have an 8 wheel set and with 2 learnable spares only cost half the price of a Tyredog set.

The guy to email is Justin Liu.

He will set them up to the pressures you want and you can also alter them on the screen.

I have my car set at 45lb and the van at 55lb

Has already saved 2 tyres.

They supply them for up to about 44 wheels with extra boosters for the trailers


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Follow Up By: zacc - Friday, Jun 19, 2009 at 19:28

Friday, Jun 19, 2009 at 19:28
it does not show cost , can you let us know the cost or is that not allowed on this forum? cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Friday, Jun 19, 2009 at 19:43

Friday, Jun 19, 2009 at 19:43
Mine were about $425 including postage from China


Contact Derek who advertises on here He sells similar stuff for about the same price


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Follow Up By: Gone Bush (WA) - Friday, Jun 19, 2009 at 19:55

Friday, Jun 19, 2009 at 19:55
Davies Craig sell the same one as Derek.

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Their Receiver is cheaper than Derek's but Derek's extra sensors and the repeater are cheaper than DC's.

If you were cheeky you could buy from both sources and get a good deal.

These ones alert you to a percentage drop in pressure which, if you adjust your tyre pressures a lot, would save a lot of re-calibrating. I think it's 12.5% and 20% (something like that).

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