Gas Fridge Problem

Submitted: Tuesday, Sep 06, 2005 at 18:37
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We have had a 3 way Chescold 60l for 8 years. When it works it works well but it will often stop working after a few days - always in a remote spot! It then becomes a very expensive esky!

We always set it up with a spirit level and when camped run it on gas. Sometimes we can get it chilling again by removing the contents and rotationg/inverting it several times. Its a very hit and miss process and really annoying.

We have had it checked out and it always behaves in the repairers workshop and our garage at home.

Has anyone had a similar problem and how did you rectify it?

AliL
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Reply By: Member - Crazie (VIC) - Tuesday, Sep 06, 2005 at 18:39

Tuesday, Sep 06, 2005 at 18:39
Hi Ali

Try tipping up side down for a while, especially when it goes off. This will help it work.

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Follow Up By: Ali L - Tuesday, Sep 06, 2005 at 18:56

Tuesday, Sep 06, 2005 at 18:56
We have done that and yes sometimes it helps. But we'd still like to know what causes the problem so it can be fixed. It's very frustrating AND costly
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Follow Up By: Member - Crazie (VIC) - Tuesday, Sep 06, 2005 at 19:01

Tuesday, Sep 06, 2005 at 19:01
I believe it may be rust particals or such in the fluid in the pipes, not sure if that helps

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Reply By: Member - Robert R (QLD) - Tuesday, Sep 06, 2005 at 19:02

Tuesday, Sep 06, 2005 at 19:02
Good ventilation helps
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Reply By: Ron173 - Tuesday, Sep 06, 2005 at 19:19

Tuesday, Sep 06, 2005 at 19:19
My electrolux RM360 which is just 2 way, no 12v, gave me problems, it would be fine on electric, which proves the system, but on gas it would go out, sometimes in a few hrs, sometimes a few days.

Dont know how technical you are but this is what I had to do, clean burner and flue thoroughly with careful use of compressed air, soak the small orifice in alchohol, and make sure your thermocouple is right in place and in the flame.

It was the burner clean n flue that fixed mine, I'd previously and unnecessarily fitted a new thermocouple.

try here

www.rv.com.au/frames/hints/fridge2.htm

Rgds

Ron
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Follow Up By: Inland Sailor - Tuesday, Sep 06, 2005 at 20:57

Tuesday, Sep 06, 2005 at 20:57
Had the same problem, ie on gas it would go out and the same method, clean burner and flue thoroughly fixed mine as well!!!
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Reply By: wbsl - Tuesday, Sep 06, 2005 at 22:21

Tuesday, Sep 06, 2005 at 22:21
Hi I have Chescold 3way fridge and had to replace the refridgeration unit in it a few years ago.

Later found out that they are subject to air locks and will stop working. Best cure is to store on its side or upside down then rotate occassionally.

This will help clear the airlock

Regards Wayne
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Reply By: Mike DiD - Tuesday, Sep 06, 2005 at 23:03

Tuesday, Sep 06, 2005 at 23:03
Lived out of a Chescold for 3 months while travelling. Also had the "not cooling" problem but cured it by cleanig around the gas jet with a pricker every few days.

Could never see anything there but it worked.
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Reply By: Nudenut - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 08:07

Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 08:07
what ambient temps are you experiencing this? Not too hot i assume. Very high temps can cause this as can some other problems.

make sure that air flow over condenser is unobstructed and condenser clean.

as some others have said make sure heat stack/flue is clean and also free of obstructions.

assuming the ambients are not too high to be the cause it will be one of two things.

Crystalisation or internal corrosion, both of which block the circulation of solution and which can only be tolerated and not fixed...well not with out a lot $$$

the above method of turning them on there side and upside down for say an hour at a time is a temporary fix at best (if it works, and sometimes it does) but sooner or later it will occur again and eventually the thing will stop ....permanently
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Follow Up By: Ali L - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 11:13

Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 11:13
Thanks Nudenut
It will just stop working ie frost disappears from freezer plates and temp rises to 16 to 20 degrees. It's happened in hot and mild conditions

We have cleaned and modified the gas flue, had the jets and gas system checked, increased the airflow behind the unit.etc etc

We also think it's a crystalisation/corrosion problem AND sadly it's been like it since we bought it We were hoping there might be another solution other than throw it away or spend the $s

Cheers
AliL
PS We also have an Engel and despite it's appearance goes like a rocket but it's not the best system for 4 weeks in 1 spot.
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Follow Up By: Nudenut - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 11:31

Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 11:31
sadly i reckon thats what you going to have to do
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Reply By: HelenWheels - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 09:05

Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 09:05
do a search on here.

There was a link a few months ago which detailed how to set up the air flow correctly on a fridge.

MOST are installed incottectly.

Ill do a search for you now and if i find it ill post the link again.

If i dont find it do one yourself because it is VERY VERY importand to get the air flow correct on the back of the fridge. The air flow is vital as well as the levelness of it.
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Follow Up By: HelenWheels - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 09:20

Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 09:20
post 20658 or ...

click here
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Follow Up By: Ali L - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 11:16

Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 11:16
Thanks for that
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Reply By: Drew - Karratha - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 09:53

Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 09:53
I had one that did that exact same thing - I put up with it for a few trips then sold it and bought an Engel and have never looked back (or had warm beer again)
Drew
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Reply By: Mike DiD - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 11:22

Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 11:22
You can improve the cooling efficiency of a Chescold by improving the airflow on the Condensor.

I put a Computer fan there - it only draws 1/10th of an Amp.
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Follow Up By: Mike DiD - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 11:24

Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 11:24
Also I assume you are aware that the Fridge MUST be level for it to work.

I mounted a Circular spirit level on top to make sure it is level in camp.
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Reply By: Flash - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 16:47

Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 16:47
Many people are not aware that running 3 way fridges off level is disastrous.
Short term, the fluid stops circulating and cooling stops.

BUT THEN, it overheats which causes the ammonia solution to crystalize, causing blockages. Even a new frig can be wrecked like quite quickly this and warranty does NOT cover this problem. A mates son did this in a three day trip away. (You can sometimes short term fix the problem if not too severe by turning it upside down etc.-dislodges the offending crystals)
If your frig has been run off level too long, and crystalisation has occured, there is NO cure, ie: you need a complete new cooling unit. That is also why they are VERY risky to buy second-hand.

Also, it is irrelevant how you store it, (just any clean dry area is fine) and does not need to be run regularly. But you must not run it off level except when moving constantly (driving).

Hope that clears up a few "urban myths".
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Nudenut - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 17:26

Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 17:26
crystalisation will eventually fix itself.
you do not dislodge the cystals..they are absorbed back into the solution.

another way to fix cystalisation is to heat the area where it has the crystalisation has occured and its always the same area...seniors moment i cant remember the name of that part of the system
These things do not need a spirit level to get them to work...any reasonably level surface will do!
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Follow Up By: Ali L - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 18:42

Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 18:42
Thanks for your response but as mentioned we, always, right from the start set it up using a spirit level to ensure it was operating "on the Level"!
I might try Nudenut's suggestion and heat up the pipes as a last ditch attempt to sort it out. Failing that it's the rubbish tip

ali L
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Follow Up By: Nudenut - Thursday, Sep 08, 2005 at 07:58

Thursday, Sep 08, 2005 at 07:58
once crystalisation starts it will always happen
it comes and goes so to speak
whatever you do it is only a temporary fix
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Reply By: techie - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 23:15

Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 23:15
B 4 U throw it - if you live in Sydney, or can get it here, I would like to look at it.
If I fix it - you get it back. If not you can either have it back or I'll throw it.
Especially if the problem is in the gas section.
I am home most of the time so can set it up in kitchen and put a thermocouple on gas to sound alarm if it stops, so can check it out whilst running etc etc.
Just a suggestion - problems like this intrigue me, like to find a definitive cause.
Regards
Donk
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