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Kayne - welcome to the forum!

I'm welcoming you because you must be new. The question you have asked is probably the most hotly, uhmm... "debated".... no... that's not the word.... "ridiculed" (is that better? yes.. I think so) topic on every 4WD forum - so if you'd been around you would have seen the firefight.

Do a search (top of the screen) for the word "hiclone" to find out just how many times this question has been asked - and what the responses generally are.

Have fun!
Chris

if you rit a fitch!, Hiclone! and all the other fuel saving devices you seee advertised on the net, you should make enough petrol to sell to the refineries...so belive what you will

better still fit one and then you can tell us all what we already know....

Back in the mid seveties one of the mags I think it was Wheels did an excersise of fitting (theoretically) every know fuel saving device including water injection.
Does anyone remember Water injection and the claims made?

Anyway the upshot was that by adding up the 5% 10% 3% etc savings the car actuallly produced fuel rather than using it.

Snake oil salesmen will always be around.

i read about hiclone and they say 10% fuel saving.
so i fitted 11 and now need a long range tank because my jackaroo is now producing more fuel than it uses
cheers and good luck

I fitted one to my 98 2.8TD Rodeo bout 2 years ago after much convincing by a mate, dont notice much improvement in fuel ecomony but from driving tests i did before and after fitting, there is a considerable amount of increrased tourque and less turbo lag, im even considering fitting another before the turbo. I took it out a while back to see if i noticed a difference and was like driving a different car! i used to think they were rubbish but now i thinks its a 160 bucks well spent

Hi to all,

A few years ago prior to the introduction of unleaded fuel one of the major oil companies undertook trials to establish What Where and How the 'new' fuel would perform. They used three cars and three drivers with each vehicle doing exactly the same trips with each driver. One was a 'control' which was using the old standard petrol while the other two used ULP. The trial lasted about 18 months and even involved each motor being dismantled at the beginning, during and at the end of the trials to establish wear patterns. The results were documented at every point down to the ambient tempereature for each day. Those results were made public.
The point of this story is that until I can get access to actual/factual test results for the extensive trials done on any of these products which lay claim to improving fuel consumption/torque/etc I will continue to be less than impressed by their claims. I too hear the anecdotal stories - both good and bad - but I still think that a very light weight boot fitted to the right foot is the only way to get a noticeable improvement in the litres per kms stakes.
BIL fitted his petrol LC with a product being promoted by Repco. Knowing that he had done big mileages recently I enquired as to the performance and his response was that Repco had agreed to take the units back and refunded his outlay. The recorded performance improvement was less than measurable.
Kevin J

I wonder if the placebo effect is to blame with a lot of this stuff.

Ie: I paid good money for this jigger, therefore it must be working and I'll subconsiously invent the evidence to support my decision.

I had one and installed it .
Result = At least they gave me my money back when It was returned.

I use to own an FJ62 Lancruiser, 4.2litre carby petrol. An absolute gas guzzler, I use to get something like 300km out of 70 litres of gas. Yes i did have a hiclone fitted and I got an extra 40km out of a tank of gas. Didn't notice and definite increase in power. So it worked for me.

Cheers,

Mark.

Hello Kayne

You may be wondering at the divergent experiences with Hiclones . Not too hard really . Your vehicle , like most modern Jap machinery has a BMEP rating of about 9.2 Mp [ 130psi ] . This is pretty efficient , could be better but the designer has opted for a balance of efficiency and low stress . Certainly , the designer has put a lot of effort into avoiding any major problem areas . The Discovery 1 and 2 series has an elderly engine based on a Buick design from the late 1940's . It has a BMEP of about 7.4Mp . It obviously has some design problems and first suspicion is induction . The Hiclone can't make your Toyota much better , but it sure can improve the old Buick . Similarly , if your normally efficient Jap engine develops a problem , or has one modified into it , the Hiclone may help . But that would not necessarily be the best approach .

Hi all

I am concerned that everywhere you go be it the explore oz or just about every place where those with money and vehicles congregate in person or on the net there are those people making outrageous claims about using their device to save fuel. They use weasel words to describe their successful results and it only costs - plus fitting.

I too have a couple of really good ideas for a fuel saving devices that really work. Unfortunately I probably wont make any money out of it but I guarantee that it works, Nothing to pay and guranteed to work what more could you want?

No statistics no driving absolutely nothing to do unlike the plethora of dubiuos products on the market with outrageous claims and prices.

All you need is four bricks and a jack - the bricks are usaully lying around the yard and the jack usually comes with the vehicle - so no cost. Most will be able to work out what to do next - no need for instructions - save on printing and advertising.

The other model in development doesnt even require the bricks and the jack - just leave it in the driveway.

Hope this all those wood ducks out there with more money than sense contemplating fitting fuel saving devices to their vehciles.



SMORT

Stop ridiculing these things, I have the Hiclone, The Fitch and Peter Brocks Polariser all on the same vehicle.! It uses no fuel whatsoever, however I can't seem to get it to leave the garage. LOL

BILLS Come on in . It`s 24hours this this post has been up and you have not leapt in. Are you crook or something? Don`t let us down now. G.T.

Kayne, Save your money. My experience is that it does not work. I put one in my 96 hilux diesel with no improvment to my fuel figures at all and no improvment to power. I gave it a 6 month trial and then took it out.

Kayne,

I think you need to find someone who has fitted one to their own Patrol 4.2TD. It appears they don't do much for the majority of cars but have you heard a report about yours? I've read posts on extractors where people swear they're a waste of money and vice-versa. Same deal. Because they don't work on a Hilux doesn't mean they won't work on a Patrol.

It worked on my old landcruiser and I don't give a rats about people who disbelieve - what's it got to do with them anyway, it was my vehicle, my money, not theirs.

Will one work on my Prado? I don't know and I'm not going to try out because I don't think it will do much to an already good (efficient) engine, so I'm looking elsewhere for improvements (driving style, trye pressures, better fuel etc).

Best of luck at whatever you end up doing but let us know on here.

Cheers,

Mark.