Cheapest <span class="highlight">Satellite</span> <span class="highlight">Phone</span> options
Submitted: Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 05:39
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Member - Troll 81 (QLD)
Hey guys,
I posted a thread a couple of months ago about Sat phones and I can't find my post...there was some good information in there that I want to use now but can't find it.
I find myself more and more in areas that don't have normal mobile coverage. I have never had the need for a sat
phone and I prefer to be out of contact when I am out and about relaxing so the purpose of the
phone will purely be for emergency use.
I don't have a account with Telstra but from what I have read the most simple way to do this, is to sign up with Telstra on a cheap plan activate international roaming and stick the sim card into a sat
phone?
Is there a cheaper way to do this? I have read some things about Thuraya
Satellite Phones as
well and that might be the second best thing for my situation but their pre-paid plans expire if you don't use the credits.
Any other options out there?
Thanks
Reply By: Member - Mick O (VIC) - Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 06:23
Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 06:23
Just don't go near globalstar (or their new name what ever that is). Very poor coverage.
Cheers Mick O.
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Follow Up By: Top End Explorer Tours - Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 08:07
Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 08:07
Pivotel swapped my Globalstar crap
phone, with the new Iridium
phone FOC, and I couldn't be happier.
Cheers Steve.
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Follow Up By: Member - Dunworkin (WA) - Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 15:50
Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 15:50
Hi Steve, I understand that you got your Globalstar swapped "free of Charge", how did you get that? Is it because you are a tourist operator or did you threaten to go to Consumer Affairs?
Cheers
D
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Reply By: Member - Troll 81 (QLD) - Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 07:31
Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 07:31
I have read on previous post that Telstra does not do International Roaming on pre-paid but I just read on their website that you can do that...can anyone verify this?
Here is the link
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 15:26
Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 15:26
That is new to me. When i went overseas in November last year, Telstra said absolutely no way to international roaming on a pre paid (reason given is that other countries can take quite some time to bill back to Telstra, and by that time credit can be exhausted, or
phone not even in use).
I had since read somewhere where they had opened it up to allow international roaming to certain countries and that you had to apply for the particular country you were visiting, however the link given says prepaid automatically has international roaming.
We paid $2,000 for a Sat
phone and opted for $30 per month plan (cheaper monthly means dearer calls, but it was for emergency only use), which included up to $10 in calls per month. They said we could suspend the plan when we got
home and reactivate it when going travelling again - but now Telstra say they don't suspend, although they acknowledge we were told that when we purchased the sat
phone. They of course never got back to me, and ringing them again means getting transferred to the wrong section for about three days.
When i looked at cost of hire, the cost for a few months was about the same as purchase.
Motherhen
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Reply By: Mike Harding - Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 07:47
Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 07:47
Is this the original thread?
Sat phone thread
The search function on this
forum is not as simple as it might be.
Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Member - Troll 81 (QLD) - Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 07:51
Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 07:51
Thats the one thanks Mike
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Follow Up By: Rod, Sydney - Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 19:07
Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 19:07
Hi Mike. I tend to use Google for my exploroz searches - just add "exploroz" to your Google search string. Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Steve M (SA) - Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 08:31
Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 08:31
Thuraya is now available in Australia.
Optus to resell Thuraya
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:40
Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:40
Thuraya is great in the desert, but there is only one fixed
satellite at 20 degrees above the horizon at 292 degrees.
If you need help when there is a mountain or
cliff between you and the
satellite, you will NEVER get
satellite access.
With Iridium, the satellites are moving all the time. If you're in a deep valley you will not have
satellite access for a while, but you should always get access within 30 minutes.
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Reply By: Matt & Caz - Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 09:31
Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 09:31
Hi,
I read the Original thread a while ago and went into Telstra, they told me the
phone costs around $2k then you have to go on a monthly plan and to be honest I can't remember how much it was - I know it was enough to turn me off the idea, I do believe that you can hire them
Regards
Matt & Caz
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Follow Up By: Member - Troll 81 (QLD) - Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 09:33
Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 09:33
That must be for a brand new
phone.......but now it looks like you can buy a pre paid plan...and stick the sim into a
phone you buy second hand
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:43
Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:43
Many Telstra staff -
- don't know about satphones at all
- don't know about being able to use a cellphone SIM in a satphone
- don't want customers to know that they can use a SIM card, so they don't miss out on selling a $30 a month contract.
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Follow Up By: Member - Matt & Caz H (QLD) - Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 13:20
Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 13:20
I did wonder about that, I asked the employee to double
check, her superior came over and told me the same thing she did.
Will have to do some investigating.
Thanks
Mat & Caz
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Reply By: Matt & Caz - Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 10:03
Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 10:03
Hi Troll 81
Yes it was for a brand new
phone, we looked at it about 4mths ago, perhaps I will double
check, cause I would feel better having one and we did plan on hiring one if needed. We do have a UHF (5 watt) not sure how far we would get with that - (we are new to this!!!!)
Regards
Matt & Caz
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:44
Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:44
"We do have a UHF (5 watt) not sure how far we would get with that "
- 500 metres to 50 km - depending on terrain, height etc
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Follow Up By: Member - Matt & Caz H (QLD) - Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 13:18
Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 13:18
Ok Thanks - we have a medium sized aerial
Cheers
Matt & Caz
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Reply By: Miss(an)Jo - Toad Keeper (Bris - Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:49
Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:49
Cornel, Footloose (Jim) who is at Currumbin Valley deals with Sat phones. He'd be a good one to talk to.
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Reply By: Trekker Bob - Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:50
Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:50
Hi
we recently bought a Thuraya
phone from a company called TCS R Direct, and they helped us with a rebate from the government to pay for it because we are out of mobile service for long periods.
This
phone we have uses normal mobile signal when in town and
Satellite when out of town. It is perfect. The sat calls are only about 65 cents per 30 secs which is really good pricing from what I have been told.
Google them and their details will be there.
Trekker Bob
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Follow Up By: Member - Dunworkin (WA) - Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 14:02
Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 14:02
We have been dealing with a girl at ATS Australia in Osborne Park here in
Perth, she has been wonderful with us and very truthful with the pros & cons of the Thuraya
phone. We like the look of them but not sure if it will cover what we want.
Cheers
D
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Reply By: Member - Dunworkin (WA) - Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 13:50
Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 13:50
OK I have been reading this process on here for a couple of years now. Now it is time to get a clearer picture of it. What you are saying is, if I have my normal nextG
phone changed to "international roaming" I can use the SIM in our Sat
phone, Do I understand that correctly? If so I take the SIM out of my next G
phone and put it in a Sat
phone, is that how it works??? please help me understand this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm a bit slow with these things.
Cheers
D
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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 14:22
Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 14:22
That is how it works with a couple of proviso's,
1. The SIM card MUST be Telstra with International Roaming enabled. (it's the same SIM you have right now with a new feature turned on)
2. The
satellite phone MUST be an Iridium capable unit, such as the Mototola's ie: 9500, 9505 & 9505A
Hope that helps,
Geoff
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Follow Up By: Member - Troll 81 (QLD) - Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 15:18
Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 15:18
Geoff,
Do you know if the pre-paid with international roaming will work as
well?
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Follow Up By: Member - Footloose - Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 15:30
Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 15:30
Take a peek at one of my webpages ...might help you to visualize it.......
Doing the Telstra thingy
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Follow Up By: Member - Dunworkin (WA) - Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 15:44
Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 15:44
Thanks for that Geoff, much clearer now, much appreciated.
Cheers
D
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Follow Up By: Member - Dunworkin (WA) - Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 15:47
Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 15:47
Thanks Footloose, fantastic, it is always good to have step by step instructions, for me anyway. Another option.
Cheers
D
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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 15:48
Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 15:48
Hi Troll,
I've no idea on the Telstra pre-paid and International Roaming.
My guess would be no as it will take time for Telstra to receive the bill from the overseas carrier and by that time there'll probably be no credit left on the pre-paid and the user will have no intention of buying more.
It'd make a great lurk if going overseas though! Buy a cheap pre-paid, get minimum credit and toss the SIM when you get
home!
Repeat as needed!
Geoff
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Follow Up By: Member - Troll 81 (QLD) - Wednesday, Oct 22, 2008 at 03:45
Wednesday, Oct 22, 2008 at 03:45
Geoff,
That's what I thought but from reading on the Telstra site they have changed that now and I don't see any difference in international roaming on pre paid vs. post paid?
Guess there is only one way to find out. I am busy sourcing a sat
phone and once I have that I will try the pre paid first and if that doesn't work go for a plan I guess
Will post the results once I have the
phone...hopefully in the next month or so
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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Wednesday, Oct 22, 2008 at 18:44
Wednesday, Oct 22, 2008 at 18:44
Hi Troll 81,
That's interesting regardig the pre-paid SIM.
I would be very interested in how you get on with it and International Roaming.
Please do keep us informed.
Geoff
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Reply By: Motherhen - Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 15:33
Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 15:33
There are various providers of 'blocks' of calls for prepaid
satellite, but although it gave flexibility (eg $400 worth of calls during a year), in the long run it would have worked out more expensive than the Telstra plan.
You also now need to get subsidy (if eligible) pre approved and this can take some weeks. We didn't meet the criteria anyway.
Mh
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Follow Up By: Member - Dunworkin (WA) - Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 16:34
Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 16:34
"We didn't meet the criteria anyway."
Hi Motherhen, we are in the same boat as you there, after paying a couple of grand for our
phone a few years ago and now having to fork out again hurts more when there is no subsidy to go with it.
Cheers
D
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Reply By: trouper - Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 17:40
Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008 at 17:40
Troll 81
You are correct in that you can insert your Telstra Sim Card that has International Roaming activated and place it into your Iridium
phone ( I have a Motorola 9500) I got a cheap plan costs $15 per month and ude that sim card. Works perfectly but call cost is expensive but then I have it only for urgent calls.
Regards Jeff
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Reply By: Member - Brett C (WA) - Wednesday, Oct 22, 2008 at 02:46
Wednesday, Oct 22, 2008 at 02:46
Swapped my Iridium Sat
phone 18 months ago to Globalstar due to annoying international number in and out, plus annoying delay in speech.
Installed a sat
phone car kit at the same time, with a huge aerial on the roof giving massive reception. Coverage with this setup has always been near perfect. Did the CSR in July/August...spent a good hour on the
phone each day with work calling...only lost call on the odd occasion.
Its obvious I am the odd one out it seems with Globalstar likely due to the external marine aerial, but I will never return to Iridium.
Brett..........
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