<span class="highlight">Iveco</span> dual cab? Or do I need a 4WD

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Hello,

I have posted a question a while ago and now have a bit more idea of my 12 month trip to start in December. We are travelling with 4 kids and 2 dogs (please don't focus on the dog part of this questions- I know they will restrict us but we will put them in kennels to visit national parks)- have a 23ft van currently being made and are about to buy the tow vehicle. We have looked at a 2nd hand Iveco 50C17 dual cab which allows us to have the 4 kids in the back and the 2 dogs in a cage in the tray. The set up is ideal however, this is not a 4WD and I was just wondering whether people who have travelled Australia feel that we will be missing out on lots if we do not have a 4WD. It is hard for us to know since we have not begun travelling. If it is only a couple of places, that is fine but I do not want to miss large chunks of Australia. Having said that, we are not experienced 4WD people and do not want to go 4WDing for fun, but would like to camp away from van parks around half the time.

Thanks so much for your help. Leah
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Reply By: HGMonaro - Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 10:18

Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 10:18
For what you're doing, I'm going to say no, 4WD not required.
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Follow Up By: LeahSA - Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 10:25

Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 10:25
Thanks for your quick reply. Have you been to Kakadu? Do you think this sort of small truck would cope with most of the roads there?
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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ . . .- Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 19:02

Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 19:02
I went through kakadu in a Non 4wd without hassles

Maîneÿ . . .
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 10:37

Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 10:37
All the main roads in Kakadu are sealed.

Jim Jim falls is 4wd The popular places like Uburr, Yellow waters,etc can be accessed by anything on wheels.




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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 10:46

Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 10:46
We have been right up the centre and down the west coast and the only

places we have been the Iveco wont was Lost city in Lichfield,

Cape leveque

(We didnt go ) too rough.

Cape Peron , only place we used 4wd.

Steep Point we went in a boat.

The Gibb river road may be a challenge

In a lot of places if one is needed they can be hired for a short trip.

You wont miss much and lots do the trip in cars towing small vans.

Cheers


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Follow Up By: mazcan barry - Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 11:28

Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 11:28
hi
i just read this and will stand to be corrected graham h
but is;nt your rig a full time 4wd toyota in this image pics that you go everywhere in
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Follow Up By: LeahSA - Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 11:59

Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 11:59
Thanks Graeme, You will see that we did take your advice from e few months back and look into a few different cars other than just the landcruiser and feel that the Iveco might be a good option given the stuff that needs to be taken for 6 people. Hope you are enjoying your travels. Leah
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 15:32

Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 15:32
Yeah meant low locked in 4wd

Everywhere else didnt use low range or locked diff


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Reply By: Bob of KAOS - Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 11:15

Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 11:15
Probably the only places you would need 4WD are in some of the dune country (Simpson, GVD, GSD) and in the high country when its wet.

High clearance is essential for many places - river crossings, Palm Valley etc

Most of the time however, a conventional vehicle will get you through. After all. the locals seem to get their old Falcons and Holdens to some pretty remarkable places.

I would imagine the Iveco would be more than adequate, with the above provisos.

Gibb R Rd- no probs.
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Follow Up By: LeahSA - Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 12:02

Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 12:02
Thanks for that. Leah
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Reply By: warfer69 - Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 12:55

Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 12:55
****The set up is ideal however, this is not a 4WD and I was just wondering whether people who have travelled Australia feel that we will be missing out on lots if we do not have a 4WD. It is hard for us to know since we have not begun travelling. If it is only a couple of places, that is fine but I do not want to miss large chunks of Australia. Having said that, we are not experienced 4WD people and do not want to go 4WDing for fun, but would like to camp away from van parks around half the time. ****


I believe you would be doing yourself a disservice not going down the 4wd track.Of course you'll want to leave the van in a caravan park and hav a look around the immediate area..This may include small river crossings,hills etc etc...
I initially thought you should hire a couple of vehicles for test runs but looks like times against you..Also take into consideration flash flooding around Australia etc etc


Goodluck
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Follow Up By: LeahSA - Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 13:12

Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 13:12
Thanks for your input. I guess the biggest barrier for us is the fact we need 6 seats and somewhere to put the dogs while we are travelling. We have test drived the iveco, landcruiser etc but the only other option I suppose is a small 4WD Mitubishi dual cab truck. Do you know much about these? Thanks, Leah
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Follow Up By: River Swaggie - Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 13:44

Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 13:44
Hiya Leah

I'm the same bloke but would not let me log in under my new name,think it was my fault lol..Ok a guy by the name of Blaze on this forum owns one and has done quite a bit to his...Can you giv me your email and i'll get him to contact you about it if you like..


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Follow Up By: LeahSA - Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 13:47

Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 13:47
miwilson@live.com.au

Thanks, Leah
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 16:03

Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 16:03
Unless you want to go to isolated tracks out in the never never a truck will suffice.

If you want to go to the usual tourist spots you wont have any trouble

As i said the GRR may be a challenge but it would be for a van that is not built for it as well.

If you want to go bush bashing somewhere hire a Troopy for the day and bash it about Better than doing it to your own vehicle.

They are for hire everywhere in the north.

Have a look at an Isuzu truck as they come in 4wd versions.

They are pretty tough and are used in the Warrior all terrain vehcles built in QLD

Just dont expect car comfort in any of them, there are quite a few I have seen towing 5th wheelers.

Have fun We have had a great trip been everywhere we wanted and didnt need a 4wd except in places listed.

We missed Cape leveque as we dont fish and its 100k of really rough road and you cant take a van there anyway.

A Prado parked next to us in Broome had been there and his aerial had vibrated so much it had broken his headlight cover. (it was mounted in front corner on bumper area) Also his driving lights had come loose.

We saw it when flying back from the Horizontal Falls that was enough.

Just another nice beach and nothing else.

Cheers

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Reply By: Member - Lionel A (WA) - Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 22:01

Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 22:01
December....pretty warm.
If your airconed, I'd put the kids in the cage and the dogs up front.


Cheers.....Lionel.
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Follow Up By: LeahSA - Friday, Oct 02, 2009 at 02:11

Friday, Oct 02, 2009 at 02:11
Tempting but usually the kids smell slightly better than the dogs. A bit touch and go though!
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Reply By: Eric Experience - Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 23:12

Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 23:12
Leah.
The Iveco will be better for you, the kids will have more room. To improve your off road ability place most of the heavy items at the rear of the tray, and have only the minimum items in the van. Eric.
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Follow Up By: LeahSA - Friday, Oct 02, 2009 at 02:14

Friday, Oct 02, 2009 at 02:14
Thanks Eric. Will keep that in mind. After the 4 kids, there will be litttle room in the cab for much else. I'm hoping the tray will fit a fair bit. Leah
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Saturday, Oct 03, 2009 at 21:02

Saturday, Oct 03, 2009 at 21:02
Just a thought.
Was reading Motorhome and Caravan Trader today and in it was a


4wd Mitsi Canter that had been made into a 17 seat bus. Looks a bit like an OKA.
Was $43000 Only downer it was a 98 model

As long as it hasnt been a tourist bus on Fraser or similar it may be a option.

Is on page 112 28/09 edition
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Follow Up By: LeahSA - Sunday, Oct 04, 2009 at 11:05

Sunday, Oct 04, 2009 at 11:05
Hi again Graham,

I'll have a look. My husband loves the look of the okas- THis could be a good compromise. Thanks for keeping us in mind. Will let you know how I go. Leah
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Reply By: Boobook2 - Sunday, Oct 04, 2009 at 08:35

Sunday, Oct 04, 2009 at 08:35
After having just spent 3 weeks in one I would say definitely go for a 4wd.

I missed being able to go down a few tracks and highlights in National parks because of no 4wd access. BUT the biggest problem I saw was that it drove us all crazy with the rattles and jarring on dirt roads, and was very tiring to drive compared to a decent 4wd sedan. Never again. And we weren't towing. I was more tired after 4 - 5 hours in it than after 8 - 10 hour stints in mine. The engine revs reasonably hard and it works for it's money.

You should hire one for a few days and try it on long corregated roads. That'll convince you which way to go.
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Follow Up By: LeahSA - Sunday, Oct 04, 2009 at 11:03

Sunday, Oct 04, 2009 at 11:03
Thanks for your reply. Was the iveco you drove a manual or auto? How did it drive on smoother country dirt roads- maybe I am a little optimistic here!! Having driven a landcruiser on several long trips (pre children), I loved driving it. But we haven't got the choice of a 4WD sedan due to kids and dogs numbers- only a 4WD truck. Have you got any experience with these? Thanks, Leah
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Reply By: Member - Myles F (QLD) - Sunday, Oct 04, 2009 at 09:03

Sunday, Oct 04, 2009 at 09:03
G’day Leah,
My old man has an Iveco dual cab required as part of his fifth wheeler setup. The problem he encounters is when he in unhitched there is insufficient weight over the wheels. There have been occasions when after unhitching he slips and slides on grass and has required a tow from his camp to some gravel. This is despite the fact that he has the weight of the turn table, tools and compressor constantly in the back. Putting more weight over the wheels would help every time you unhitch but a 4wd wouldn’t require that and a 4wd would unquestionably get you more places.
There are four seat belts in the back of the Iveco and that as I see it is its only advantage. The seats however are not very comfortable (I’ve been there) and are meant for short trips…. For tradesmen and alike.
I would go for the 4wd.
Myles.
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Follow Up By: LeahSA - Sunday, Oct 04, 2009 at 10:55

Sunday, Oct 04, 2009 at 10:55
Thanks for your reply. I would love to just buy a 4WD but we have the problem of 6 people and 2 dogs. The back seat comfort should be fine as my kids are in car seats so won't notice. So the options we have are a 4wd truck. Do you or your Dad have or know of anyone who has experience with these? Thanks for your help - this is getting harder by the minute!
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Follow Up By: Member - Myles F (QLD) - Sunday, Oct 04, 2009 at 18:34

Sunday, Oct 04, 2009 at 18:34
Leah, Sorry, I have no experience with 4wd trucks, though I do run a few trucks in my businesses, delivering to building sites. We used to have many occasions when they would require a tow off the site once unloaded, particularly when the site may be a bit wet. We now fit diff locks to all vehicles and now rarely have a problem. So…. I suggest you consider fitting diff locks if you decide to go with the Iveco.
Myles.
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Reply By: consif - Sunday, Oct 25, 2009 at 03:12

Sunday, Oct 25, 2009 at 03:12
Hi guys a little of the subject, but helpful information to the Iveco owners. I can across a website the other week and I ordered some Iveco parts from our motorhome as we are getting ready to do a big trip around the fab country of ours.
I thought that it would be a bad idea to stock up on a couple of spare wheels for my 50c18 winnebago ( better be safe than sorry )... I also bought a mirror cause mine was broken, some brake pads and filters for my service, anyway, I ended up saving almost $500 off what I was quoted from to other places, so I just thought Id share the new. The website is call iveco spare parts website ....
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Follow Up By: LeahSA - Monday, Oct 26, 2009 at 09:14

Monday, Oct 26, 2009 at 09:14
Thanks for that. It costs so much to go away that it is good to save where possible. We did end up buying the iveco so fingers crossed it serves us well. What sort of spare parts are you carrying? Hope you enjoy the trip. 7 weeks until we head off on ours. Leah
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