Honda or Yamaha <span class="highlight">generator</span>?

Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 18, 2009 at 23:13
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Hi,

as the title suggests, we are about to purchase a genny and looking at either the Yam EF2400iS (2.4kVA) or Honda EU20i (2.5kVA). They are the same price so any thoughts/experiences would be appreciated.
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Reply By: WillyWish - Wednesday, Nov 18, 2009 at 23:20

Wednesday, Nov 18, 2009 at 23:20
I've got both. In my opinion the honda wins as it's quieter, easier to handle and more fuel efficient. Honda make great engines.
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony S (WA) - Wednesday, Nov 18, 2009 at 23:48

Wednesday, Nov 18, 2009 at 23:48
Agree.
Had both now have a Honda.
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Reply By: Member - Fred B (NT) - Thursday, Nov 19, 2009 at 00:08

Thursday, Nov 19, 2009 at 00:08
Have the EU20i, love it. No dramas. Good value for money. Simple to service.
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Follow Up By: puttputt - Thursday, Nov 19, 2009 at 00:21

Thursday, Nov 19, 2009 at 00:21
Honda eu20i rated 1600w max 2000w (not 2500w)
Yamaha 2400 rated 2000w max 2400w

Yamaha is my choice, I bought one due to more powe for same money, very happy.
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Reply By: sarah1 - Thursday, Nov 19, 2009 at 00:37

Thursday, Nov 19, 2009 at 00:37
thanks for the replies so far and thanks for the correction on the Honda.

As we are just learning about generators, can anyone comment on whether we should simply be heading for the maximum power...the Yamaha given it's rated at 2000w as oppose to Honda EU20i at 1600w? The most I could ever see us running off them is an aircond (yes I know - not exactly roughing it however with a 12mth old and another on the way, a cool breeze may save us all in a month or so), 'standard' camper with microwave, lights, small fridge, med sized engel and the air con with normal input current of 1400w and maximum (start up?) of 1450w. If it simply means turning microwave etc off before starting up the genny this isn't an issue..

I'm not quite sure what size/W we should be heading for although it's starting to seem as though the 1600w Honda may not be enough (?)

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Follow Up By: Member - Nick (TAS) - Thursday, Nov 19, 2009 at 08:11

Thursday, Nov 19, 2009 at 08:11
As stated below, once the gennies get up around their peak power, they work hard and when working hard, noise goes up.They scream their head off and are unbearable to have around.The easier they do it, the quiter they will run.For this alone, Id go for the biggest KVA.You can always run smaller stuff on a bigger gennie but not other way round.(power to spare)
The Yamaha unit is fairly big to be lugging about but it would be my choice.(we own a 1KVA Yammie, no A/C to run)
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Reply By: time waster - Thursday, Nov 19, 2009 at 06:02

Thursday, Nov 19, 2009 at 06:02
Hi Sarah,

Not sure if the new Yamaha EF2000is is on sale yet here is a look at it, we have the Honda eu20i and have been very happy with it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-0eb6tsuw8

Christian
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Follow Up By: Faulic_McVitte - Thursday, Nov 19, 2009 at 20:28

Thursday, Nov 19, 2009 at 20:28
Yes the new Yamaha EF2000is is on sale now and a superior unit to Honda Eu20i. Better built and engineered with lower fuel consumption and less noise. Yamaha EF2000is has heaps more grunt to start air con than Honda EU20i. Honda tell you in the manual they dont work over 40C and they dont on air cons.
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Follow Up By: time waster - Thursday, Nov 19, 2009 at 20:45

Thursday, Nov 19, 2009 at 20:45
I know the manual says they don't work over 40c but we where in Memory Cove Pt Lincoln N/P last January when the fires hit and the geny was in 45c in the shade running the A/C with out any troubles, maybe because it's the Herron 2.2 and only uses 9oow so just over half, I did make sure it was in a place with a slight breeze.

The yammy looks good, thought I read somewhere that something about 300hours.
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Reply By: Member - lyndon NT - Thursday, Nov 19, 2009 at 07:24

Thursday, Nov 19, 2009 at 07:24
hi Sarah
We don't own either but know people who do. Don't know any who runs the aircon from a Honda, oh it will do it, screeming it's t-ts off! So people just don't bother. The Yamaha will do this job easier but weighs more and is much more bulky. Like all things in camping it is a compromise. If I was never going to run a aircon I'd go the Honda for sure. You could always get the 3 kw Honda on wheels, just need lots of ROOM :)
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Reply By: RV Powerstream P/L - Thursday, Nov 19, 2009 at 08:17

Thursday, Nov 19, 2009 at 08:17
I suppose in marketing the name helps a lot but in reality there is very little between the three main name brand generators Honda, Subaru and Yamaha.

I always wonder who spends the most money to market the product and do people align with Honda and Yamaha more because of the bike racing and other high profile activities.

We sell both Yamaha and Subaru and fit the electric start models with wireless remote control and we also run our own 3200Subaru on gas.

Honda certainly jumps to the front in a lot of discussions and as stated before they are all nose to nose at the finish line.
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Reply By: Member - Bushpig - Thursday, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:23

Thursday, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:23
I purchased the Yamaha 2800kv for less than the cost of the Honda 2.0. More power but a slightly more bulky. Weight is almost the same, as are decibels.
Better value IMHO.
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Follow Up By: sarah1 - Thursday, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:42

Thursday, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:42
Hi Jack,

so, would you say the 2800kv ($999) would probably run quieter for us than the 2400kv ($2099) despite it not being enclosed? The fellow at the store said the 2800kv is "quite loud" but if it's less revs may be it's still better....

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Reply By: Member - Terry. G (TAS) - Thursday, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:40

Thursday, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:40
Sarah
I have a caravan and at times also need the A/C going and was in the same boat as to what to buy as one couldn't try first .So I brought a Yammy EF2800i and it had two power outlets and will run at the same time the Air Con , Microwave oven and the one electric ring on the gas stove. now I tested this in my back yard proberbly never need the power but I now know that elec jugs.toasters ect will not be a problem either.
Just because one is on holiday it don't mean one has to rub two sticks together to light a fire
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Reply By: TerraFirma - Thursday, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:42

Thursday, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:42
Yes they are not quite Apples for Apples, in my opinion you need to establish what capacity you really need as the extra capacity of the Yamaha could come in very handy. If you don't need the extra capacity the Honda wins, but in terms of watts for $$$ tghe Yamaha wins.
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Reply By: ChrisVal7 - Thursday, Nov 19, 2009 at 17:10

Thursday, Nov 19, 2009 at 17:10
We had a Honda 2kva and needed it only to run the caravan aircon when it got too hot. We found that the Honda couldn't cope when the temperature was over 40 degrees. The handbook confirmed that the unit won't run in ambient heat over 40 degrees.

So we bought the Yamaha and it is great. Yes it is heavier but we can live with that. The noise levels are similar.
Chris
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Follow Up By: Faulic_McVitte - Thursday, Nov 19, 2009 at 20:32

Thursday, Nov 19, 2009 at 20:32
The Yamaha EF2400 at the same wattage output as the Honda EU20i the Yamaha uses less fuel and is a fair bit quieter due to the lower RPM of the engines.
If you can take the little extra weight and space of the Yamaha EF2400i it is a superb heavy duty unit. We have many at work with 1000's of hours on.
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Reply By: Outa Bounds - Saturday, Nov 21, 2009 at 12:04

Saturday, Nov 21, 2009 at 12:04
I was told that it isn't a case of buying the biggest capacity generator you can afford. Whist it's true that you don't want it to scream it's head off all the time I've also been told that if they have it too easy the pistons glaze over and that it's not a good thing at all.

We had a small Honda generator for camping which we were pretty happy with, although it was a shame it couldn't boil a normal kettle etc. Next gennie we get is likely to be a backup for the house when the power goes out (rural so need to run the pump for water etc) and my choice will be Yamaha I reckon, purely becuse they have a model that looks like it would suit to a t. From memory the model we would be buying is noisier than a honda but more capacity and it doesn't have the pretty plastic housing which probably means it's more affordable too.
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