Honda EU20 <span class="highlight">Generator</span> question

Submitted: Friday, Oct 15, 2010 at 09:09
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Can anyone please tell me that when recharging batteries using the generator, is it better to recharge using the 12v circuit directly from the generator, or using the 240v circuit via a smart battery charger? Are there any issues one way or the other or is one way faster than the other? Thanks.
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Reply By: Expletive - Friday, Oct 15, 2010 at 09:48

Friday, Oct 15, 2010 at 09:48
Holic,it is in the general consensus not to use the 12v charger on the Genset, best to use the 240v & the smart charger.



Bob.
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Reply By: Wilko - Friday, Oct 15, 2010 at 09:55

Friday, Oct 15, 2010 at 09:55
Hi Ima,

You could charge a battery but it would be unregulated. You could fry the battery as it wouldn't turn off when the battery is full. I use mine on a 1kva Honda for emergencies only.

It would charge at 8 amps so if you had a smartcharger at around 15 or 25amps it would obviously be quicker.

Cheers Wilko
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Reply By: Member - Troll 81 (QLD) - Friday, Oct 15, 2010 at 09:57

Friday, Oct 15, 2010 at 09:57
Use a charger instead of straight from the Gennie...I tested mine and it was putting out 17v with spikes to 22v on my Honda Eu10
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Reply By: Battery Value Pty Ltd - Friday, Oct 15, 2010 at 10:45

Friday, Oct 15, 2010 at 10:45
As was said before.
Best way is to use a multi stage charger.

If none is available, connect a voltmeter in parallel to your battery and charge it through the 12V output.

The voltage will rise slowly, but once it gets up to 14V it'll start rising faster.

Once it's reached 14.6~15V, stop charging.
Your battery will be around 90% of full capacity at this stage.

But don't go to bed while doing this, because it's not a 'set and forget' thing.
If the voltage is allowed to rise higher, the battery will lose electrolyte at an increasing rate.

You could build a simple circuit which provides for a more complete charging:
Wire a 12V21W bulb in series, with a bypass switch parallel to the bulb.
Start charging with the switch closed. Once the battery voltage has come up to ~14.5V, flick the switch open.
The light bulb will now limit the current to around 1~1.5A, and the battery voltage will drop instantly before starting to rise slowly again.

Once the battery terminal voltage has again risen to 14.5V, wait another hour or two and the battery will be 100% charged (it doesn't matter if the battery voltage rises higher during this time, as this is actually beneficial).

The above procedure is good for batteries with a capacity of ~100Ah.
For smaller batteries, reduce the wattage of the bulb, for larger ones, wire two 21W bulbs in parallel.

cheers, Peter
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Follow Up By: wortgames - Friday, Oct 15, 2010 at 10:59

Friday, Oct 15, 2010 at 10:59
Hi Peter, that's a great tip, thank you!

Nice to know that at least some problems can be solved without spending thousands of dollars on the latest gizmo.
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Follow Up By: Battery Value Pty Ltd - Friday, Oct 15, 2010 at 11:12

Friday, Oct 15, 2010 at 11:12
You're welcome.

Mr Plante certainly didn't have access to these gizmos when re-charging his batteries 150 years ago ;)

cheers, Peter
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Reply By: i'machocoholic - Friday, Oct 15, 2010 at 10:58

Friday, Oct 15, 2010 at 10:58
Thank you all for the prompt replies!

Looks like the smartcharger solution is the way to go, thanks once again.

Linda.
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Follow Up By: JohnnyC - Friday, Oct 15, 2010 at 18:32

Friday, Oct 15, 2010 at 18:32
One point that I don't think anyone mentioned, is the Honda will supply about 8 amps DC only when the auto thtottle is off and it is running at full speed, anything less and the charge rate drops to virtually nothing,if you use a 240/12 V charger then the Honda can just cruise along more sedately.
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