ARB AIR LOCKERS

Submitted: Thursday, Dec 30, 2004 at 17:40
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Hi again
I am considering fitting an ARB air locker to rear diff on my GU wagon, but notice some only have air locker fitted to front diff.
Can't really afford both at the moment, so which one is the best to go for... front or rear? Most of my trips are Cape York and along the beaches
I notice Roachie has everything that was ever invented for fourbies and yet has front air locker only.... so what's the way to go Roachie?
Regards Poppy
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Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Thursday, Dec 30, 2004 at 17:52

Thursday, Dec 30, 2004 at 17:52
G'day Poppy,
Just my opinion.........gathered from reading shyte-loads of magazine articles b4 I became an "EO convert". The thing with Nissans is that the so-called "experts" all seem to agree that Patrols have the best LSD (rear diff) in the industry; unbreakable, virtually.
That said, it makes sense that if you can only afford one diff lock (like me), it is best to stick in the front pumpkin. That way you get the best of both worlds.....fully-locking front diff and the "safety" of an excellent rear diff that will take a few hundred klicks to wear out the LSD, at which time you can update to a rear locker as well.
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Follow Up By: Member - 'Lucy' - Thursday, Dec 30, 2004 at 17:58

Thursday, Dec 30, 2004 at 17:58
Well done Roachie, you must have been pressing the send button as I was Typing.

Buy you a beer or two very soon.

K
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Follow Up By: Poppy - Thursday, Dec 30, 2004 at 18:14

Thursday, Dec 30, 2004 at 18:14
Thanks Roachie
Made my mind up for me, will go for front locker and start sAving to get some of the extras that you carry, but with only a 3litre turbo not sure it will carry all that weight.. LOL.
Poopy... oopps I mean Poppy
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Dec 30, 2004 at 22:00

Thursday, Dec 30, 2004 at 22:00
Strange as it may sound, mate of mine works for ARB HO, and he says to put in the rear..

Even though Nissans have the best LSD in the bizzo, he explained the issues with them in the front with the front end can start spinning, and then drift around so you end up comin back where you came from, even if you didnt mean to..

YMMV

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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Victoria) - Thursday, Dec 30, 2004 at 22:35

Thursday, Dec 30, 2004 at 22:35
Bruce, I've had a hard day in the bush and the old brain aint working too good tonight. Can you explain that again....real slow
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Dec 30, 2004 at 22:48

Thursday, Dec 30, 2004 at 22:48
I'll get him to explain it..
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Victoria) - Thursday, Dec 30, 2004 at 23:23

Thursday, Dec 30, 2004 at 23:23
So just how good is a Nissan LSD. I know my rear air locker is awesome, is a Nissan LSD any replacement for a locker.
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Follow Up By: glenno(bris) - Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 11:17

Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 11:17
I was told by guy from 4x4 shop a locker was best in front when going up an incline because all the weight is over the front wheels (engine etc) .
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Victoria) - Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 13:49

Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 13:49
You sure you've got that right Glenno. Front wheel drive cars can have a lot of probs going up a steep loose incline because all that lovely weight goes to the back
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Follow Up By: glenno(bris) - Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 14:35

Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 14:35
Thats what i thought he said . I must have ballsd it up .
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 17:22

Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 17:22
"when going up an incline because all the weight is over the front wheels (engine etc) . "

Going up a hill, all the weight is over the ar$e end, nowhere near the front. Little thing called Gravity...

PS this will probably get deleted.. everythign else I seem to post now does.
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Victoria) - Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 17:35

Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 17:35
Ok, thought you had been a bit quiet lately, now I know why. Maybe something in your posts are deemed to maybe cause civil unrest and of course that is illegal. I can see thousands storming canberra because of something Truckster said on EO :)

For me I get more value out of the rear locker, I've used it a number of times but haven't used the front in anger but then again I'm a bit of a
chicken at times.
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Reply By: Foss - Thursday, Dec 30, 2004 at 17:53

Thursday, Dec 30, 2004 at 17:53
G'Day Poppy

My opinion>
you have a really good limited slip diff in the back and no traction control in the front. Put it in the front. I have this setup and it works very nicely thankyou.

cheers
Foss
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Follow Up By: Poppy - Thursday, Dec 30, 2004 at 18:17

Thursday, Dec 30, 2004 at 18:17
Thanks Foss
Will definately go for front now
Regards Poppy
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Reply By: Member - 'Lucy' - Thursday, Dec 30, 2004 at 17:56

Thursday, Dec 30, 2004 at 17:56
Yeah! Well!

Roachie also has a Shu-roo, electronic anti-rust something or other, air horns, synforce oil, more under bonnet after market wiring than the loy Yang power station, a cooper tyre once that a split in the side wall, the radiator from hell, yep! you name it and he either has it, tried it or piffed it. ROFLMAO. Oh! forgot - quick release front sway thingies, and either red or green coolant curtesy of the 'gulf techos', more compressor power and airlines than GMC. The list just goes on.

Now to answer your question. He loves his rear super LSD, and SWMBO would kill him if dared think about a rear locker.

Did you know that he dumped a full set of KONI'S which member BREW is now riding on thinking all his X-mas's have come at once. I'm still pondering that one.

AND, and, and he now has a gennie.

What more can I say.
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Thursday, Dec 30, 2004 at 18:04

Thursday, Dec 30, 2004 at 18:04
Yeh, but I don't have a Troopy AND a Jeepney...!!!! hahahaha (SWMBO doesn't drive, so we're a one vehicle household).
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Follow Up By: Poppy - Thursday, Dec 30, 2004 at 18:21

Thursday, Dec 30, 2004 at 18:21
Lucy
When I read his rig/profile I couldn't believe one could fit (or need) so many extras on a fourby, but I am only a 59 year old newbie at this
Poppy
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Reply By: mcgra - Thursday, Dec 30, 2004 at 22:21

Thursday, Dec 30, 2004 at 22:21
hi poppy

just a word of advise from one that had a mishap with mine.

front or rear get them to replave the axel bolts with new ones.
i had mine done in my 60 series LC in october this year early december i had a funny noise while road driving and got home to dicover i had sheared one pin and 4 studs on the passanger side read and 3 on the driver side rear.

rang arb and was told that it is a common thing, But wait for it they reused the orginal studs that were many years old. spoke to one of the boys in the 4x4 club and he said you should always put new ones in so you know that they have not been under stress and should be ok.
it doesnt make them bullet proof mind as the extra stress caused by the air locker can still cause the hsearing to take place.

and i only engaged the rear locker 3 times for a short peroid each time.

if they go again i will change the 6mm pins to 100 series 10mm pins also i have put unbreako's in place of the studs.

gra
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Follow Up By: Poppy - Sunday, Jan 02, 2005 at 13:47

Sunday, Jan 02, 2005 at 13:47
Thanks Gra for the advise, I will talk to my ARB bloke on Tuesday when I get the body lift done
Regards Poppy
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Reply By: Ninja - Thursday, Jan 27, 2005 at 14:51

Thursday, Jan 27, 2005 at 14:51
Hi there.. I have a ARB Air Locker in the rear and a Detroit Ser. 1V locker in the front. If you put the ARB in the front you will find it almost impossible to steer as both wheels are locked when in fact the outside wheel actually has to tun faster then the inside wheel when turning left or right on a tight winding track.
With the Detroit locker in front, it allows you to steer via a ratchet system built into it and as soon as one wheel loses traction it Immediately locks both wheels again.
Don't put the ARB Air locker in the front. You'll be sorry...For what its worth...
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