bucky posted:

Robin and others,,,
Sorry ,,,Model was a 4.2 TD Intercooled,,
Cost the farmer $70,000,,so does that means that he had a few extra's ???
Cheers
Bucky

Member - Ian H (NSW) posted:

I reckon those figures are salesman BS. I have a 1HZ aftermarket turbo and never get better than about 11 l/100 kms and up to about 15 l/100 kms if loaded and around 110 kph.

Off-track posted:

Factory turbo, not aftermarket on 1HZ.

crewser posted:

(53 feltches) ROFLMAO
Is his name BILLS? I thought it was BULL S.

V8Diesel posted:

;-))))))))

Member - Andrew W (SA) posted:

Hi there Chump,

How you doing?

Remember that Bill doesn't have a 1HZ - he has a TD so his mileage is not comparable to a 1HZ anyway.

Ciao for now
Andrew who wishes he could get 10L/100km from his 1HZ

chump_boy posted:

lol - i'll pay that....

chump_boy posted:

Bills,

Why do you talk about yourself in the third person?

Anyways, thats some mighty accurate fuel figures - down to hundredths of mililitres - how the hell did you measure that accurately? You'd have trouble measuring that using an eydropper, or a full titration setup!!!!

And down to milimetres accuracy on the distance travelled? Did you take into account tyre wear? What about heat buildup in the tyres?

When are you going to do the Dyno tests you keep promising? When are the NRMA and RTA going to complete their testing - you know, the tests you keep saying are forthcoming?

And remember, just because the tests come back saying the feltch made no difference doesn't mean the test was wrong......lol

Chump

Truckster (Vic) posted:

>> Why do you talk about yourself in the third person?

he wants nothin' to do with himself either.

dieselup posted:

Your on the money Spike!
That's as good as Ican get out of our 105 1HZ with snorkel and extractors fitted
The extractors did make a difference to fuel economy and performance

BILL from Fitch Fuel Catalyst Australia Pty Ltd posted:

Mikee5(QLD) Do you not understand 10.04587( lph) litres per hundred ie ( l/100km,) and as this was described in earlier answer I do understand your querie as it appears the Australian standards gurus dont have any idea either,we allways said how far we got on a gallon of fuel or if you like miles per gallon. Stands to reason one would say how far we go on each litre of fuel in comparison.Because the Australian standard says we use litres per 100, well I do not agree, and will continue to read kilometers travelled per litre.Have allready had dealings with the Australian standards people and am not real impressed with their approach to changes that they do not understand or should say they do not Want to understand,so I will leave it at that.

Regards BILLS

chump_boy posted:

So now standards australia are involved....

Tell me Bill, when you don't get the result you want from them, whos next?

lol

Member - Pezza (QLD) posted:

Give it a break chump-boy, fair enough have a go at him when he deserves it but not just for the sake of it.
Strangely enough in this case I (and I know many others, because this discussion has come up before) actually agree with Bill, just because he uses km/lt doesn't mean he is trying to confuse us or trying to hide his figures, many of us use and understand this formula far better than the motoring media introduced lt/100.
Horses for courses.
Besides, you'll find he usually states the figures both ways, as I do, so it saves people doing the arithmatic themselves.
As for getting Aus standards involved, have you ever contacted a government body that sets some of our silly regulations and voiced your opinion, I know I haven't, so maybe that puts Bill one up on us, maybe if more of us did it then maybe, just maybe some of the regs might be changed. I doubt if it would but that just goes to show what Bill said about their hardheaded, stuff-you-attitude.

Avagoodn
Pezza

ross posted:

The australian standards are linked to International standards and were not introduced by the "motoring media"
You may have noticed they are measured this way in all countries that are metic.

The australian standards protect us in so many ways,in almost every aspect of our lives.

Bill probably doesnt like the AS because it exposes his product to professional scrutiny, and we know what that means;)

chump_boy posted:

Pezza - Bill can state it how he wants, it just gives me the poos that someone can sell a product without doing any testing what-so-ever, and claim all sorts of things.

I am pretty sure his fuel figures could be accurate, but stating them to millimeter and sub millilitre accuracies is not on. I guess it's the engineer coming out in me..... And to turn around and clain it is his feltch that is making the fuel savings is not on either - until he can prove it.... Which he keeps claiming to be just about doing.

And all this talking in third person stuff is just a bit strange....

Lol - I guess it's time for a chill pill, and go clean the car....

Truckster (Vic) posted:

sorry Pez, its open season LMAO

Truckster (Vic) posted:

hey Pez see the recall on the KTM Motorcycle - 990 Adventure with ABS - 2006

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Member - Pezza (QLD) posted:

LOL, Oh well, can't win 'em all, must've been having a 'be nice' period in my life :-)

As for the recall, figure at least they admit they have a problem when they have one, unlike certain large 4wd manufactures.
They had a recall on the 950 as well when it first arrived, couple of small problems,one being something to do with the valve adjustment mechanism I think, either way, was all fixed and are one of the most reliable jiggers around now.

Can't for the life of me figure why they put ABS on the KTM anyway, other than playing 'keeping up with the jones' with the 1200 GS Beemer, which is more road orientated.
Won't find too many learners on the 990, and most experienced guys hate ABS, hence the 'ABS off' switch, fitted as standard.

Avagoodn
Pezza

ross posted:

I think a lot of people here are fed up with Bull S jumping into to flog his gadgets at every oppotunity.
He is the only one that I know of who is constantly selling something in every post.
Imagine if a car saleman or insurance rep started pushing their products every time someone asked for advice.
This forum is for people to swap experiences without the profit motive constantly in the back ground.
If I want advice on a car fridge from another owner,I dont want a frige seller coming on here telling me how good ABC fridges are!

chump_boy posted:

Billowaggi,

I do tend to jump in whenever BILLS is concerned - hell, I think I even started this one, and BILLS came along afterwards.

I just think it is wrong the way he makes all sorts of unproven claims, and just gets away with it. No other manufacturer or importer can get away with it.

I'll stop when BILLS starts proving what he is claiming, simple as that. And he keeps saying he will do it!

Cheers,

Chump

ross posted:

Bill S figures seem very rubbery, here he is on an abortion forum declaring a whopping 50% improvement in fuel economy.

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Billowaggi posted:

That is very wierd! what has fuel economy got to do with abortion!

Ken.