Gronk posted:

Can you post a pic of a Jasjam???
How much ??
Can you get a pre paid Next G card ??
Push email ???? Whats that ??

TerraFirma posted:

Jasjam is a PDA and does everything, camera, video, can also be used as a Navigator with Tom Tom Software and Bluetooth GPS. Compatible with any Telstra Next G services and also comes with external antenna port, I used mine 120KM's off shore with Next G and worked beautifully. Push email is the receiving and sending of email to your phone real time , requires a Microsoft Exchange Server in a business enviroment. Sorry for being too technical here.

http://www.clubimate.com/t-DETAILS_JASJAM.aspx

Sand Man (SA) posted:

Mate,

Some of us just want a device to make and receive calls.

I bought a Nokia 6120 and took out a 12 month contract with Telstra today.

Just a word of caution. Even though you may get a phone that is "unlocked" be a little careful if you want the full functionality of the NextG technology.

If you buy say a 6120 that has Optus firmware preloaded, you can use a Telstra sim card in it, but either some functionality wont work, or will only work via a "workaround".

Each of the carriers have the phones they sell, flashed with their own firmware for accessing their Internet gateway, etc....

Now, I haven't physically confirmed this by testing myself, but I intended buying the phone cheaper through Allphones, then using a Telstra NextG sim card in it, until warned by the friendly salesman at the local Allphones outlet.
They may have lost a sale on the phone itself, but I will do other business with them all the same.

Telstra currently have a $20/month plan with a $5.00 rebate and several options to choose from. One is a 24/7 option where you nominate another (Telstra) mobile, or Home line you regularly call, and all calls to that nominated number are at no cost.
Coupled with $15 of free calls per month and you have a pretty good deal that is hard to pass up.

Member - Jiarna (NT) posted:

Just check the fine print carefully as I have the 24/7 option on 2 of my NextG phones, and it's only free for the first 3 minutes. So I've got to get SWMBO off the line in less than 3 minutes!!

Cheers
John

Sand Man (SA) posted:

John,

Thanks for the "heads up" mate.

Although I rarely talk for anywhere near 3 minutes at a time, its good to know of the hidden "expenses" that may be incurred by means devious, or otherwise.

I have carefully read the contract document I signed and it does not mention any detail about the 24x7 option, but it does refer to a "booklet" which I have not been given, or received in the post as yet.

I am better prepared for your warning. Thanks.

Sand Man (SA) posted:

Ah Ha!,

Just found what Jiarna alerted us to.

As well as the "contract" I signed, I was given a brochure titled "Telstra Mobile Plans - Pricing Information".

Under the "Choose one of our Bonus Options" title, one of which is the Free 24/7, it states the option is free for the first 3 minutes.

Thanks again John.
Many people, (including me) would not have picked that up.
OK providing you limit your call to the nominated number to 3 minutes or less.

hl posted:

NO...
But you can tape up the lens and screen
cheers

Member - cuffs (SA) posted:

You can no longer just buy a phone you have to get all the extras
The Nocia is $450 outright purchase, from a Oz web company.

NOKIA has warned that up to 46 million batteries used in some of the company's handsets could be faulty and pose a risk of overheating.

The advisory applies to batteries manufactured by Matsu bleep a Battery Industrial Co Ltd between December 2005 and November 2006, the world's largest mobile phone maker said.
Japan's Matsu bleep a is one of several suppliers that have together made some 300 million BL-5C batteries.

The lithium-ion battery is one of 14 different types of battery used in Nokia phones.

Nokia said 100 incidents of overheating of the Matsu bleep a-made BL-5C batteries had been reported worldwide, but added that "no serious injuries or property damage have been reported".

All the cases of overheating have occurred during charging of phones, the Finnish company said. "According to Nokia's knowledge this issue does not affect any other use of the mobile device."

Nokia said it will change the batteries.

Last year, Sony Corp. recalled more than 10 million laptops after it discovered that lithium-ion batteries used in them could overheat and catch fire.

The recalls included notebooks made by other major computer makers, including Dell Inc, Lenovo Inc, Apple Inc and Acer Inc.

Nokia sells products in 130 countries and employs 110,000 people worldwide. In the second quarter, it sold 100 million mobile devices, claiming a 38 per cent share of the global market.

Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) posted:

Signman,
The current crop of GSM phones and SIM cards will work on the NextG network.
I use a Nokia 5100, rubber case and about all you need. I aim to stick with it, much to the average Telstra sales reps' annoyance.
Once you challenge them on the fact your GSM will make phone calls on the NextG network and that's all you want they don't know where to go. Their sales training doesn't cover that one.

Geoff

Member -Signman posted:

Hi Geoff
Only the GSM- not my current CDMA??? It's a Nokia 2112.

hl posted:

That is rubbish. A GSM phone will NOT work on the NextG network.
Cheers

Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) posted:

Hi Signman,
Only the GSM, not the CDMA

As to hl, he'd best get off his high horse and talk to Telstra, then study the frequency ranges of NextG. Tool.

Geoff

hl posted:

Well Geoff you do seem insist on promulgating rubbish.
There is more to nextG than than the operating frequencies and GSM phones do not cover the 850Mhz band. Period.
Not even a Telstra 3G (as opposed to NextG) will work in a NextG only area.
And I don't ride high horses either (I'm a bit short)
Cheers

Andrew from Vivid Adventures posted:

A GSM phone will work with a NextG SIM...

In a NextG only area you have to have a NextG phone, which will work with a GSM SIM...

At least that was a case a few months ago...

hl posted:

I second that.
It is amazing how people will start to talk rubbish and leading people to believe things that are simply not true.
Cheers

Member - Mike DID posted:

"Hi Signman,
Only the GSM, not the CDMA

As to hl, he'd best get off his high horse and talk to Telstra, then study the frequency ranges of NextG. Tool.

Geoff"

WHAT !!!!! The NextG network runs on 850MHz, the GSM network runs on 950MHz !!!!!

Some NextG phones also have GSM capability - maybe that's what's confusing Geoff ?

Mainey (WA) posted:

As I understand it the 'nextG' system runs 3 different frequencies

Member - Mike DID posted:

SOME NextG phones can operate on multiple bands e.g the ZTEF252 can switch between these NETWORKS

850MHz - NextG
900/1800/1900MHz - GSM
2100MHz - 3G

The ONLY phones which currently will operate on the Next G network that is available in rural areas are phones marketed as NextG.

Robin Miller posted:

Hi Signman

The same Telstra brochure has ad saying "Coming soon the Telstra 158 , a simple stylish water/dust/shock resistant phone" that can take a bit of "knocking around"

Robin Miller

Sand Man (SA) posted:

Guys,

Testing I did today with the NextG sim in the GSM phone identified that the connection was via GSM, not NextG. You can check this by looking at the transmission icon that is displayed.

I believe the transmission frequency is the deciding factor. A GSM phone can probably only operate on the GSM Frequencies, even with a NextG sim installed.

The sim card is really only an authorised means to connect to the Carrier you have the account with. The phone is what determines the frequency it tries to negotiate over. In some cases a phone will allow more than one frequency highway, but their is not many around that do, to my knowledge.

Just for the hell of it, I will try the GSM sim in the NextG phone and see if I can connect on whatever carrier frequency.

Member - Jerry C (WA) posted:

The Telstra model ZTE151 is a triband phone without a camera.

Cheers, Jerry

Member - Mike DID posted:

My GSM Simcard works in my Motorola 9505 Iridium-band phone - it certainly works ONLY via the Iridium satellites, even if I'm in GSM coverage.

Sand Man (SA) posted:

I performed a simple test this morning, swapping the sim cards between phones.

Both connect via the GSM Network.

So, it would appear only with a NextG sim card in a 3G or 3.5G compatible phone, will you connect to the NextG Network.

With a GSM phone, (regardless of the sim card inserted) you will be "limited" to the GSM Network.

This makes sense to me as the GSM phone is limited to the GSM frequencies, whilst the NextG phone can access both, but only with the appropriate sim card. It will connect to the NextG Network if available, or the GSM Network if that is the only one within range.

Member - Mike DID posted:

"So, it would appear only with a NextG sim card in a 3G or 3.5G compatible phone, will you connect to the NextG Network."

- this could confuse people - a phone that works on the 3G-2100MHz network will NOT work on the NextG network.


The one test you still need to do is to go a NextG service area where there is no GSM coverage and see if a GSM SIM will give service in a NextG phone. A GSM SIM may give priority to the GSM network when in a dual coverage area.

hl posted:

Hi,
The frequencies a phone covers is only half the story. The operating modes for GSM, NextG and CDMA are totally different. The current NextG phones that are capable of multiple frequency operation are also capable of switching to GSM and 3G on the 2100Mhz band.
You will notice that a NextG phone can not display location info, as these phone can take their signal from multiple towers simultaneously.
When one is not in a NextG area and the phone switches to GSM, the cell location information will suddenly appear (if enabled). This is an easy way to tell if you have NextG coverage.
The other thing of course is that NextG phone can support very high data rates and in connection with a laptop can appear just as fast a broadband connection at home (if you can afford it, the meter ticks even faster than the data rate!)
Cheers

itsdave posted:

Fully agree
The Nokia is not recommended for use in rural areas. The LG is one they are selling for next g are, as the reception is reportedly better and they can also take a patch for a external antenna

Cheers Dave

Member - cuffs (SA) posted:

Nokia refused to pay the licence fee so telstra would not deal with them, after the failure of LG units and popular demand, Nokia won out.Telstra must provide coverage via any phone it sells, Nokia has Telsta support.

stocky posted:

Independant tests show the Nokia falls far short of the the LG for country coverage.........

As I have said before DONT BUY IT IF YOU WANT TO USE IT IN THE COUNTRY!

Even my JasJam (which BTW is viewed as a poor fringe performer) beats the Nokia! Was comparing to some poor blokes new Nokia at Glendambo just this week

Stocky

Crackles posted:

No surprises there Mainey, Telstra were never going to get it sorted by Feb & mark my words it's more likely to be December 08 when its turned off.
A local who made the change & has been having all sorts of issues with calls dropping & poor range has had an offer from Telstra to go back to CDMA until they can fix it, all this while the adds blaze away on the radio & TV :-))
How does it go, "Fools Rush in .........."
Cheers Craig.............

Member - Jiarna (NT) posted:

Telstra didn't even provide a storage card with my phone, so I wouldn't put too much faith in that rumour.

Cheers
John