Chemical toilet chemicals
Submitted: Thursday, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:26
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Kiwis Ross & Cushla
Hi, Getting into this caravaning now,whole 1st week of it,we bought this caravan back in Sept and had it stored before we came over.Working through all the bits and pieces and got around to the
toilet,Would you belive that the previous owner had not emptied it.....what a pong !!! Anyway,we have now cleaned it out and put in the thetford chemicals,I read here something about Nappysan but cant find the thread now,not that keen on thetford chemical smell,any suggestions appreciated.
Reply By: Rolly - Thursday, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:05
Thursday, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:05
The chat on the "napisan" type of chemicals came down heavily in favour of the cheaper generic brands as they contain a higher percentage of the principle ingredient, sodium perchlorate.
This chemical is benign in the natural environment and in septic tanks etc. as it breaks down to hydrogen peroxide as the main disinfecting agent which works by releasing oxygen into the solution which kills the bacteria.
A huge number of RV users are changing over to this low impact and low cost product with considerable success.
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Follow Up By: oldtrack123 - Thursday, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:47
Thursday, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:47
HI
Rolly replied:
The chat on the "napisan" type of chemicals came down heavily in favour of the cheaper generic brands as they contain a higher percentage of the principle ingredient, sodium perchlorate"
A slight correction Rolly, the active ingredient is : sodium percarbonate.
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Follow Up By: Rolly - Thursday, Feb 26, 2009 at 13:17
Thursday, Feb 26, 2009 at 13:17
OOps!
Spot on , oldtrack.
I had another, totally different though train going on at the same time as posting that.
I'm not so hot at multi-tasking 8D
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Follow Up By: oldtrack123 - Thursday, Feb 26, 2009 at 22:34
Thursday, Feb 26, 2009 at 22:34
Hi Rolly
No problem, I'm 81, suffer a few senior moments in some of my posts.[ that's why I like the ones I can edit, often read them then after posting realize the boo boo]
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Thursday, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:39
Thursday, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:39
Hi
Ross & Cushla,
Many people are changing over to "safer" chemicals for portable
toilet systems.
One of the potential health problems I read about was that the Thetford (green) product contains formaldehyde which is not too good for humans if you absorb it. I am unsure of the Thetford (blue) product that is also for the waste tanks in portable
toilets.
Anyway, the product I now use is called
BioMagic and if you click on the name, you will be taken to their website where you can read more about it.
Just one of the uses is for Portable
Toilets. Check the website under Uses for other applications.
If you want reference information on the product, look under Info for both Technical & Layman's versions of the product.
You can also search for retailers in each state where you can buy the product.
For Portable
toilets:
Add 50mls of Biomagic Regular to the flush
tank and 50mls of the same to the holding
tank with 2 litres of
water.
For Cassette
toilets:
Add 50mls of Biomagic Regular to the flush
tank if you have one and 50mls of the same to the base
tank with 2 litres of
water (less if its less than 20 litres capacity). Put some BioMagic Regular in a spray pack and use it to clean the bowl and all surfaces on the
toilet.
For Large Holding Tanks:
Add 100mls of Biomagic Heavy duty for Large waste tanks per 100 litres of waste with enough
water to cover the base 1” This can be added in stages as the
tank fills.
I have no affiliation of any kind with the manufacturer. I am purely a satisfied user of this environmentally safe and odourless product.
Bill
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Follow Up By: oldtrack123 - Thursday, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:51
Thursday, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:51
Hi
The active ingrediant in Biomagic is sodium percarbonate, the same as in Napisan & other similar home brand products.
Much cheaper way to buy & equally as effective
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Reply By: Member - Rod N (QLD) - Thursday, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:49
Thursday, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:49
There was copious discussion on the Caravaners
forum about what to use here
Nappysan in toilets
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Reply By: Member - Matt & Caz H (QLD) - Thursday, Feb 26, 2009 at 13:47
Thursday, Feb 26, 2009 at 13:47
Hi Guy's
Sorry to hear your van came with "extras" how gross some people are.............. we live in our van and have been on the road since November 08 - there are 4 of us, we use the odour b gone tablets - they work really
well and really simple to use.
We used the small sample thetford bottles once and never again - the smell of the chemicals was just fowl.
Cheers
Caroline
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Reply By: Motherhen - Thursday, Feb 26, 2009 at 15:39
Thursday, Feb 26, 2009 at 15:39
Hi
Ross and Cushla
Choose and environmentally friendly product - be it Bio Magic or the generic nappy plus treatments. You have much more choice about where you can safely empty your cassette, particularly in outback areas where dump points are few and far between.
To change over to environmentally friendly stuff, you will need to cleanse and prepare the
tank as they work in very different ways than chemicals. After thoroughly rinse out, mix up a double strength solution of your chosen product and add to cassette, fill with
water and soak at least overnight, the longer the better. Do similar to the flushing
tank if chemical has been used in it. There is no need to add anything to the flushing
tank for normal use.
Coles Napicare Plus and Woolworths Nappy Treatment Plus are the recommended products.
Hope you get the cassette sweet smelling!
Motherhen
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Follow Up By: Member - Malcolm (Townsville) - Thursday, Feb 26, 2009 at 17:58
Thursday, Feb 26, 2009 at 17:58
Motherhen
We used to use a dark blue stuff - from 2005 until the 4 litres recently ran out. I bought some green stuff last year and its horrible. Just checked the laundry and found some Woolworths Nappy Treatment Plus (1kg). Granules.
What are the recommended directions for a Thetford (inbuilt) Cassette
Toilet ?
TIA
Malcolm
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Saturday, Feb 28, 2009 at 00:14
Saturday, Feb 28, 2009 at 00:14
Hi
Malcolm
Simon has given the amounts. This is what was talked about on the Caravanners
Forum - links given. We are using Bio Magic, but after the discussion on CF are willing to move to Sodium Percarbonate rather than buying a second bottle of the expensive Bio Magic. I had never heard of putting detergent in the top
tank - and cannot see any reason for doing so. I use plain
water to flush at home and in the van. Fortunately so had the previous owners so chemical residue to remove from it at change over.
Motherhen
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Follow Up By: Member - Malcolm (Townsville) - Saturday, Feb 28, 2009 at 01:05
Saturday, Feb 28, 2009 at 01:05
Thanks Motherhen and Simon
The van has been out of operation since leaving
Camooweal last October. Cleaned
toilet when I got home and had not been used since.
Today I again cleaned it and loaded it up with the Napisan. Mrs bought a 3kg pack from Woolworths today especially to carry in the van.
Malcolm
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Reply By: Simon C - Thursday, Feb 26, 2009 at 20:37
Thursday, Feb 26, 2009 at 20:37
I saw the original post on here, and have a printed copy in the glove box. Basically it was a capful of the home brand nappy treatment, and 1/2 to 1 litre of
water in the botom
tank. In the top
tank (flushing
water) you added a squirt or 2 of dishwashing liquid. Used this method on Straddie for a week at Christmas, and worked a treat, and CHEAP.
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Saturday, Feb 28, 2009 at 00:08
Saturday, Feb 28, 2009 at 00:08
I hadn't heard of d/w liquid in the top
tank and wondered why? Also unless it is an environmentally safe detergent, you would be negating the enviro-friendly 'safe to dump anywhere' aspects. I only use plain
water in my flushing
tank at home.
Just curious.
Motherhen
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Follow Up By: Simon C - Saturday, Feb 28, 2009 at 11:59
Saturday, Feb 28, 2009 at 11:59
Motherhen.
The orignal post 63999 had a lot of info (including info from yourself) One of the replys mentioned adding a squirt of Morning Fresh to the top
tank to help keep "things"clean and lub the top seals. I used this method and it worked a treat for me, but it was
was my first trip with the porta potti. So it may not be needed. Agree on the evioro safe concerns....so maybe next time I will not use the d/w liquid.
Simon C
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Reply By: Member - John & Sally W (NSW) - Thursday, Feb 26, 2009 at 22:06
Thursday, Feb 26, 2009 at 22:06
Hi everyone,
Just in case I get some nappy soaker in a bulk container does the capful equate to approx half a cup? Can we put nappysoak in top
tank too or just dishwashing detergent? Thanks for advice in advance.
Sally.
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Reply By: Member - Cookie & Di - Thursday, Feb 26, 2009 at 22:36
Thursday, Feb 26, 2009 at 22:36
Just remember no matter what chemical you use, that hose you pickup at the Dump Points has been down the throat of someone elses Cassette nozzle (Don't forget the gloves next time)
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Reply By: GypsyOne - Friday, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:47
Friday, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:47
I too have converted to the generic nappy soaker & am 100% pleased with the performance at this time.
I inherited a
toilet cassette that had a residual odour...treated it with the Coles variety of nappy soaker & soaked it over 24 hours giving it a good shake every time I walked past it.
I also gave the rubber rings at the top a really good clean & left it open for a couple of days to dry out. I then re oiled the rings with olive oil as per the recommendation
It is brilliant now, one would almost confuse it for a new cassette.
I have since purchased the woolies brand of nappy soaker, 3kg for $5.99
I think the trick is to dissolve the nappy soaker in warm
water first before adding it to the cassette.
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Reply By: Kiwis Ross & Cushla- Sunday, Mar 01, 2009 at 09:24
Sunday, Mar 01, 2009 at 09:24
HI al, Usual great responce,thanks for all those.Its a bit like cough syrup ,why do they make it so bad.!!!
Incidently,I did try to search for that original post ,which I had read but it would not come up,dont know why?
Thanks again for the help.
Rosco
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