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David Carnegie Road
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The David Carnegie Rd is a little travelled track between the Great Central Rd and the Gunbarrel Hwy. It is a spectacular piece of country with rocky outcrops, spinifex plains and breakaways and in parts challenging 4WDing with deep ruts and washaways.
Start
Gunbarrel Hwy & David Carnegie Rd & Eagle Hwy
Finish
Tjukayirla Roadhouse
Distance
259.51 km
Minimum Days
2
Average Speed
35.51 km/hr
Driving Time
7 hr 18 min
Article By: ExplorOz Team Updated: 14 Apr 2008
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Description
The David Carnegie Road is best accessed by turning south off the
Gunbarrel Highway
. There are a couple of significant features to look out for in this area, however before leaving the Gunbarrel to head south, make sure you check out Mungilli Claypan, just a little further east - this claypan is often wet which attracts good birdlife and is a nice spot to rest or camp.
Enjoy a pristine desert environment, with vast spinifex plains, rocky outcrops and some challenging 4WD driving. On this trek, you can visit sites such as the breakaway country at Breaden Bluff and Forrest’s Camp 59, which is where John Forrest camped whilst on his 1874 expedition to the Overland Telegraph Line. Another popular spot is Empress Springs, which is where a tired and dehydrated David Carnegie and his companions were led to by local Aborigines.
Interactive Route Map
Gunbarrel Hwy & David Carnegie Rd & Eagle Hwy
Intersection reached after a couple of good days travelling north on the DCR. We approached the DCR from the south turning onto the track and heading north from the Great Central Road (GCR) 15 km west of the Tjukayirla Road House.
Features:
Position: 124.2413ºE 25.3944ºS (GDA 94)
Next Place:
David Carnegie Rd & Forrest's Camp 59 Access
Distance:
40.6km
Average Speed:
30.57km/h
David Carnegie Rd & Forrest's Camp 59 Access
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Features:
Position: 124.1694ºE 25.7408ºS (GDA 94)
Next Place:
Forrest's Camp 59
Distance:
1.44km
Average Speed:
16.08km/h
Forrest's Camp 59
John Forrest’s Camp 59, (the site of his 59th camp from Geraldton, whilst on his 1874 expedition to the overland telegraph line), it is located at the southern end of a plateau area and is only 4.5 kms east of the David Carnegie Road.
Features:
Position: 124.1845ºE 25.7411ºS (GDA 94)
Next Place:
David Carnegie Rd & Forrest's Camp 59 Access
Distance:
1.44km
Average Speed:
16.08km/h
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Features:
Position: 124.1694ºE 25.7408ºS (GDA 94)
Next Place:
Camping in Eucalypt Woodland (David Carnegie Rd)
Distance:
77.95km
Average Speed:
34.48km/h
Camping in Eucalypt Woodland (David Carnegie Rd)
Eucalypt woodland providing plenty of timber and many great spots to set up camp.
Features:
Position: 124.2297ºE 26.3755ºS (GDA 94)
Next Place:
Camping near Acacia & Gums (David Carnegie Rd)
Distance:
3.48km
Average Speed:
33.62km/h
Camping near Acacia & Gums (David Carnegie Rd)
Grove of acacia and gums. Possible water affording good camp site.
Features:
Position: 124.2339ºE 26.4049ºS (GDA 94)
Next Place:
Camping in Mulga Woodland (David Carnegie Rd)
Distance:
16.18km
Average Speed:
25.61km/h
Camping in Mulga Woodland (David Carnegie Rd)
Picturesque small claypan on eastern side surrounded by Mulga woodland. Great campsite.
Features:
Position: 124.2402ºE 26.5279ºS (GDA 94)
Next Place:
Camping near Claypan (David Carnegie Rd)
Distance:
7.61km
Average Speed:
37.95km/h
Camping near Claypan (David Carnegie Rd)
Large claypan 150 metres to the eastern side of DCR. Great camp with plenty of dead timber about. Western end of claypan has a soak so camping well to the east affords good opportunity to watch wildlife arriving at sunset.
Features:
Position: 124.2249ºE 26.5895ºS (GDA 94)
Next Place:
Empress Spring
Distance:
28.23km
Average Speed:
41.82km/h
Empress Spring
Empress Spring was named by Explorer David Wynford Carnegie as “a humble tribute to the world-wide rejoicings over the long reign of our Gracious Majesty Queen Victoria.” David Carnegie was shown this water hole by local aborigines on his exploratory travels in 1896.
Features:
Position: 124.3665ºE 26.7664ºS (GDA 94)
Next Place:
David Carnegie Rd & Breaden Bluff Access
Distance:
18.05km
Average Speed:
46.53km/h
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Features:
Position: 124.4555ºE 26.8864ºS (GDA 94)
Next Place:
Great Central Road & David Carnegie Rd
Distance:
48.94km
Average Speed:
37.47km/h
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Features:
Position: 124.4481ºE 27.2230ºS (GDA 94)
Next Place:
Tjukayirla Roadhouse
Distance:
15.58km
Average Speed:
70.39km/h
Tjukayirla Roadhouse
Tjukayirla Roadhouse is 15kms east of the junction of the David Carnegie Road and the Great Central Road. Apart from fuel, the Road House also provides basic food stuffs, and has a caravan park with a camp kitchen.
Features:
Position: 124.5753ºE 27.1553ºS (GDA 94)
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Permits
None unless using access/exit through Cosmo Newberry Reserve or Warburton on the
Great Central Road
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Permits
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Dept of Indigenous Affairs
Things to See & Do
Empress Spring
Empress Spring was named by Explorer David Wynford Carnegie as “a humble tribute to the world-wide rejoicings over the long reign of our Gracious Majesty Queen Victoria.” David Carnegie was shown this water hole by local aborigines on his exploratory travels in 1896.
Forrest's Camp 59
John Forrest’s Camp 59, (the site of his 59th camp from Geraldton, whilst on his 1874 expedition to the overland telegraph line), it is located at the southern end of a plateau area and is only 4.5 kms east of the David Carnegie Road. The turn off is marked by tree branches tied to a star picket.
Camping in Mulga Woodland (David Carnegie Rd)
Picturesque small claypan on eastern side surrounded by Mulga woodland. Great campsite.
Camping near Claypan (David Carnegie Rd)
Large claypan 150 metres to the eastern side of DCR. Great camp with plenty of dead timber about. Western end of claypan has a soak so camping well to the east affords good opportunity to watch wildlife arriving at sunset.
Camping near Acacia & Gums (David Carnegie Rd)
Grove of acacia and gums. Possible water affording good camp site.
Camping in Eucalypt Woodland (David Carnegie Rd)
Eucalypt woodland providing plenty of timber and many great spots to set up camp.
Empress Spring
Camping in Mulga Woodland (David Carnegie Rd)
Camping near Acacia & Gums (David Carnegie Rd)
Forrest's Camp 59
Camping near Claypan (David Carnegie Rd)
Camping in Eucalypt Woodland (David Carnegie Rd)
Preparation
There are no fuel, water or supplies available on the David Carnegie Road so all of this must be carried. The nearest limited supplies are available at Tjukayirla Road House and Carnegie Station. The nearest significant supply points are Wiluna or Laverton.
Remote Desert Country
Temperatures can rise to 50°C in summer and it has been known to rise to 60°C. Travel during summer is not recommended. This is remote desert country, so be fully self-sufficient. Keep in mind that this is not a well travelled route and there are absolutely no facilities for travellers, not even stations or aboriginal communities.
Your vehicle will need to be extensively prepared for remote area travel, with all fuel, water, food and vehicle repair equipment and spare parts. All travellers must be totally self-sufficient and should read the
4WDriving
Topic for related articles and checklists for
vehicle setup
and driver awareness. High clearance vehicles recommended, and depending on the season, a spinifex blind is highly recommended.
We advise that you refer to the latest information and advice about outback
communications
in the
Communications
Topic. For any dune driving you should fly a dune flag from the front of your vehicle to avoid head on collisions on dune tops. Additionally, the lead vehicle in any direction should periodically make calls on Channel 10 from the top of large dunes on the
UHF radio
to advise oncoming traffic of your position.
Fuel Information
Please note that unleaded fuels have long been unavailable in the region in an attempt to combat petrol sniffing issues in nearby Aboriginal communities. Recently, a new fuel from BP called Opal Unleaded, has been introduced to better serve travellers interests, whilst combating petrol sniffing problems. BP Opal Unleaded is available at Warburton, (and also Warakurna Roadhouse and Docker River along the
Great Central Road
).
Fuel Supplies & Usage
Tjukayirla Roadhouse
Diesel
4cyl 40 litres *
ULP
4cyl 42 litres
LPG
4cyl 52 litres
6cyl 40 litres
6cyl 47 litres *
6cyl 46 litres
8cyl 44 litres
8cyl 41 litres
Usage is averaged from
TrekFuel
(* specific to trek) submissions and calculated based on trek distance.
There is also fuel available at Wiluna (start of Gunbarrel Hwy), Laverton (Great Central Rd) and Carnegie Station. (These places are not shown on this trek note).
Best Time To Visit
Closest Climatic Station
Carnegie
Distance from Trek Mid Point 148.97km W
Jan
Feb
Mar
Apr
May
Jun
Jul
Aug
Sep
Oct
Nov
Dec
Mean Max. °C
38.3
36.8
33.8
29.8
25.2
21.1
21.1
23.6
28.6
32.5
35.4
37.2
Mean Min. °C
23.3
22.8
20.0
16.1
10.9
7.0
5.7
7.3
11.8
16.2
19.3
22.1
Mean Rain mm
28.8
53.1
32.7
22.1
16.7
15.0
12.5
7.6
3.5
4.8
11.0
23.8
Best time to travel
Ok time to travel
Travel NOT recommended
Services & Supplies
The following locations have various services and supplies:
Tjukayirla Roadhouse
There are good facilities and supplies available at Wiluna (start of Gunbarrel Hwy) and Laverton (Great Central Rd) and limited supplies at Carnegie Station and Tjukayirla Road House.
Camp Sites & Accomodation
Tjukayirla Roadhouse
Tjukayirla Roadhouse is 15kms east of the junction of the David Carnegie Road and the Great Central Road. Apart from fuel, the Road House also provides basic food stuffs, and has a caravan park with a camp kitchen.
Forrest's Camp 59
John Forrest’s Camp 59, (the site of his 59th camp from Geraldton, whilst on his 1874 expedition to the overland telegraph line), it is located at the southern end of a plateau area and is only 4.5 kms east of the David Carnegie Road. The turn off is marked by tree branches tied to a star picket.
Camping in Mulga Woodland (David Carnegie Rd)
Picturesque small claypan on eastern side surrounded by Mulga woodland. Great campsite.
Camping near Claypan (David Carnegie Rd)
Large claypan 150 metres to the eastern side of DCR. Great camp with plenty of dead timber about. Western end of claypan has a soak so camping well to the east affords good opportunity to watch wildlife arriving at sunset.
Camping near Acacia & Gums (David Carnegie Rd)
Grove of acacia and gums. Possible water affording good camp site.
Camping in Eucalypt Woodland (David Carnegie Rd)
Eucalypt woodland providing plenty of timber and many great spots to set up camp.
Tjukayirla Roadhouse
Camping in Mulga Woodland (David Carnegie Rd)
Camping near Acacia & Gums (David Carnegie Rd)
Forrest's Camp 59
Camping near Claypan (David Carnegie Rd)
Camping in Eucalypt Woodland (David Carnegie Rd)
Environment
The track is well defined and easy to follow, although a lack of maintenance has left much of it at the northern end in poor condition. At the northern end, the David Carnegie Road has many washaways; rocky outcrops and track deviations, there are few sand dunes. Two large rocky plateaus need to be traversed making the going slow. The southern end from Empress Spring south is often graded to allow tourist access from the
Great Central Road
, although there are a few sandy patches on this section.
History
The Hon. David Wynford Carnegie
David Carnegie was an explorer and gold prospector in
Western Australia
. In 1896 he led an expedition from Coolgardie through the Gibson and Great Sandy Deserts to Halls Creek, and then back again.
David Carnegie invested his profits from two earlier gold mines and proposed a major expedition to travel almost 1600kms from Coolgardie to Halls Creek. Much of the area through which he intended to travel was unexplored and unmapped at the time and Carnegie hoped to find good pastoral or gold-bearing land, and to make a name for himself as an explorer.
Carnegie's party consisted of five men and nine camels. Some of his travelling companions were the prospectors Charles Stansmore, Godfrey Massie, bushman Joe Breaden and Breaden's Aboriginal companion Warri. They left Coolgardie on 9th July 1896 and travelled north to Menzies and then north east.
On 23rd July 1896, they had entered largely unexplored country and were finding it difficult to locate water. On 9th August 1896, the dehydrated party came across a native who they captured and forced to show where water was located. The water supply they were led to was an underground spring in a hidden cave – which Carnegie named Empress Spring after Queen
Victoria
. Luck would have it, they were saved and the party knew they could never have found this hidden underground cave on their own. Soon this became the pattern for the remainder of the expedition – to capture natives to help them whenever they were short of water.
Leaving the Empress Spring, the expedition continued north. Throughout the months leading to October, the party passed through the desert country of the Gibson and Great Sandy Deserts. It was difficult travel as they crossed over endless sand ridges. Nearing the end of their epic journey, tragedy struck the party and on the 2nd November 1896, Charles Stansmore died. He slipped while crossing a ridge, ended up dropping his gun and was shot as the gun hit the ground. Stansmore was buried by his companions and David and the remaining members of the party reached Halls Creek four days later - a journey of 149 days and 2,274 kms. Carnegie had spoken highly of his good friend Charles Stansmore and his sudden death on the threshold of success was a sad blow to the company.
Carnegie's expedition was originally intended to terminate at Halls Creek, but since they had found no gold-bearing or pastoral land, the party decided to continue exploring, by returning to Coolgardie by a more easterly overland route. Later after returning to England, he wrote and published a book on his experiences in
Western Australia
, entitled Spinifex and Sand.
Driving Directions
Time
Direction
Distance
Gunbarrel Hwy & David Carnegie Rd & Eagle Hwy to David Carnegie Rd & Forrest's Camp 59 Access
40.6 km
S
191°
1 hr 19 min
David Carnegie Rd & Forrest's Camp 59 Access to Forrest's Camp 59
1.44 km
E
91°
5 min
Forrest's Camp 59 to David Carnegie Rd & Forrest's Camp 59 Access
1.44 km
W
271°
5 min
David Carnegie Rd & Forrest's Camp 59 Access to Camping in Eucalypt Woodland (David Carnegie Rd)
77.95 km
S
175°
2 hr 15 min
Camping in Eucalypt Woodland (David Carnegie Rd) to Camping near Acacia & Gums (David Carnegie Rd)
3.48 km
S
173°
6 min
Camping near Acacia & Gums (David Carnegie Rd) to Camping in Mulga Woodland (David Carnegie Rd)
16.18 km
S
177°
37 min
Camping in Mulga Woodland (David Carnegie Rd) to Camping near Claypan (David Carnegie Rd)
7.61 km
S
193°
12 min
Camping near Claypan (David Carnegie Rd) to Empress Spring
28.23 km
SE
144°
40 min
Empress Spring to David Carnegie Rd & Breaden Bluff Access
18.05 km
SE
147°
23 min
David Carnegie Rd & Breaden Bluff Access to Great Central Road & David Carnegie Rd
48.94 km
S
181°
1 hr 18 min
Great Central Road & David Carnegie Rd to Tjukayirla Roadhouse
15.58 km
NE
59°
13 min
Gunbarrel Hwy & David Carnegie Rd & Eagle Hwy to Tjukayirla Roadhouse
259.51 km
7 hr 18 min
Distance is GPS recorded driving distance (not straight line), Direction is straight line from start to end, Time is calculated from actual GPS driving data.
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Member - Mick O (VIC) : 13 Apr 08 21:27
We approached the DCR from the south turning onto the track from the...
We approached the DCR from the south turning onto the track from the Great Central Road (GCR) 15 km west of the Tjukayirla Road House. (Can highly recommend the burgers at the road-house if you’re looking for a snappy lunch after a couple of weeks in the bush). Trip concluded over two days 29th and 30th May, 2007
The track north to Empress Spring is still in excellent condition with little wear and tear evident. The undergrowth and shrubs are encroaching onto the track in some places. We spent some time clearing fallen and camel chewed bushes from the track (please take the time to drag them off rather than drive around them. It maintains the integrity and condition of then track and only adds half an hour to your total trip). Plenty of camels about and numerous bustards and dingos.
Found the Exploroz trek note mileage to be out by 7-8 km on the northbound trip so make sure you check the distance between the GCR and Empress Spring for calibration purposes.
Once past the Empress Spring the road condition deteriorates somewhat but is still easily negotiated. Road reaches it’s worst conditions towards its northern end with some deep washaways. At about the 220 km mark, there were a lot of water filled claypans that had to be skirted. The largest was over 100 metres across at the 224.7 km (S 25.32.571 E 124.11.855). A very enjoyable drive with plenty of wildlife and birdlife to be seen. Some great campsites of which a few are listed below. All distances are in kilometres commencing from the Tjukayirla Road House.
1. Large claypan 150 metres to the eastern side of DCR. Great camp with plenty of dead timber about.
Western end of claypan has a soak so camping well to the east affords good opportunity to watch
wildlife arriving at sunset. 85km S 26.35.371 E 124.13.494
2. Picturesque small claypan on eastern side surrounded by Mulga woodland. Great campsite.
S 26 31.676 E 124.14.415
3. Grove of acacia and gums. Possible water affording good camp site. 124.3 km S 26.24.293
E 124.14.036
4. Eucalypt woodland providing plenty of timber and many great spots to set up camp 125 to 127.8 km
S 26.22.530 E 124.13.780 (northern end)
5. At 145km track becomes very soft with shallow wash-aways
6. Track becomes quite rocky around 180 km culminating in a rocky rise at S 25.87.168 E 124.20.616
7. Finished at 242.8 km at intersection with Gunbarrel Highway.
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