crab bait
Submitted: Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 10:36
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are there good alternatives to fish for crab bait?
I am getting soft as I don't like the idea of killing two living things. I am happy to take what I need eg a few crabs to eat or a few fish here and there but the idea of draging a bait net for crab bait puts me off now. My little beautiful musk lorikeet was recently swallowed by a carpet snake and I felt so bad about it because he would have been like live crab bait for that snake.
I know this is a bit of an ocker website at times and I expect some smart replies to this, but I have also been given genuine good advice on other
topics so I'd like to persue this.
It is very sad that our rivers eg maroochy and noosa have very few fish in them now as most were taken in excess long ago.
Ros
Reply By: Travelin OZ - Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 10:40
Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 10:40
In the interest of saving our native species, and getting rid of a introduced species, I would try CATS.
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Reply By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 11:09
Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 11:09
Ros,
I do like the suggestion a bout cats, I'm in favour of anything that removes those vermin from our land.
My suggestion is tinned cat food. Punch a couple of holes in the tin with a nail so the water can get in and flush out the scent.
Make sure it's tied to the trap good and tight as a big muddy will shred the tin like a can opener.
Pick the cheapest you can find at the local supermarket and away you go.
Tinned stuff is great to take on say a
Cape York trip as it keeps forever.
Sorry to hear about your Musk Lorikeet they are a lovely native bird. I do suspect though the Musks and all its cousins are in more danger from cats than pythons!
Hope all that helps,
Geoff
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Reply By: Member - Brian (WA) - Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 11:25
Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 11:25
They say Rabbit is good
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Reply By: Member - Cozzie Toodyay (WA) - Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 11:30
Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 11:30
lorikeets Mate couple of them and ya will have crabs for days.
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Follow Up By: Member - Ed. C. (QLD) - Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 11:42
Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 11:42
Do ya hafta pluck 'em???
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Follow Up By: Member - Cozzie Toodyay (WA) - Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 11:44
Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 11:44
Not if ya wrap them in carpet snake
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Reply By: Member - Matt & Caz H (QLD) - Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 11:41
Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 11:41
Hello
As others have said we have been successful with tin cat food - we tend to use one with oil like tuna, we have also tried chicken carcas or chicken necks.
Cheers
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Reply By: nsngood - Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 11:48
Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 11:48
I find that some spleen is a good thing over here in wait awhile'
Cheap as chips and keeps frozen for ages.
It works on the blue mannas but dont imagine the big tasty (drool mmmm mudcrabs) fella's you have over/up there will be much different.
I will send through the address so any excess can be dealt with promptly (drool .... mudcrabs).
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Reply By: Louie the fly (SA) - Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 11:56
Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 11:56
Rabbits, European Carp or any roadkill. Don't know about crabs, but shrimps in the Murray love Velvet Soap.
Louie
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Reply By: Member - DickyBeach - Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 12:23
Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 12:23
Perhaps some of the "colourful identities" in the news in
Sydney and
Melbourne recently could advise on baiting crab pots, they've been one of their tools-of-trade I understand.
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Reply By: Trevor R (QLD) - Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 14:08
Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 14:08
Any old "road kill" fresher the better.....for you putting it in the pot that is.....the crabs don't mind how old it is hehehe
So long as you can stomach eating something that has been pigging out on 5 day old road kill you should enjoy many a feed with this bait.
Cheers, Trevor.
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Reply By: Pradobob - Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 14:29
Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 14:29
I think it's an offence to use birds or mammals for bait in SA. Don't know about other states. I always use European Carp.
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Follow Up By: Member - Scoof (SA) - Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 15:44
Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 15:44
Hello Pradobob,
Is it offence to use birds and mammals just on
jetty's and near swimming beaches or is it outlawed completely.
We used chicken carcases from the butcher and they worked
well.
Cheers Scoof . :-)
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Follow Up By: Pradobob - Sunday, Oct 11, 2009 at 13:48
Sunday, Oct 11, 2009 at 13:48
According to PIRSA website, birds and mammals as crab bait, banned totally in SA
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Reply By: Member - Kroozer (WA) - Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 15:16
Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 15:16
A few years ago i was talking to some professional mudcrabbers, who had worked all along the top end of Oz, from Queensland right over to the East
Kimberley.They said that the best bait was actually ''Horse''. They worked for 4 weeks then offloaded the crab in
darwin and would go out onto stations and shoot the feral horses that werent wanted. They said it was by far the best bait. Also Donkey was too but beef wasnt. Up here myself and friends only ever use fish carcass or lamb necks. Lamb(rosettes) necks are excellent bait, muddies love it and there easy to wire in the pot and last a long time in there. Cheap too. Tried the cat food trick and wasnt as successful as the lamb necks, but it does work and is a very good,clean cheap and easy alternative when travelling. If only i could get me hands on a horse....
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Follow Up By: Fatso - Sunday, Oct 11, 2009 at 08:25
Sunday, Oct 11, 2009 at 08:25
Talking to a few pro-crabbers in
Karumba a while back. They tended to use differant baits because of the availability. One bloke would use mackeral skins or pilchards in tubes & the other tended used mackeral skins or waste fish carcases from his barra netting. The mackeral skins or pilchards would be put in a tube made from 90mm PVC stormwater pipe about 10 inches long with ventilation holes drilled in it & push on end caps.
Both agreed that tieing a bait in the pot only made it harder to put in & remove & didn't effect catch rates.
The also claimed large round collapsable pots, that retail for around $50, had better catch rates than the cheaper ones. Rectangular pots had the worst catch rates.
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Follow Up By: Fatso - Sunday, Oct 11, 2009 at 08:28
Sunday, Oct 11, 2009 at 08:28
They also both said that the bait has to be fresh. As fresh as posssible.
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Reply By: Kumunara (NT) - Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 15:50
Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 15:50
Ros
For mud crabs try donkey and camel.
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Reply By: Member. Rob M (QLD) - Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 17:15
Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 17:15
Ros.
Just try the cheapest tuna in oil that you can buy.
Probably cheaper than cat food and seems to work well.
Makesure that it is in oil not water.
Rob
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Reply By:- Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 17:59
Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 17:59
thank you very much the tin food sounds great, and the chicken carcus that would otherwise be thrown out and maybe a spleen or too.
I must admit we did laugh at the sarcastic answers as well and I knew they'd be coming......
regards ros
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Follow Up By: Member - Cozzie Toodyay (WA) - Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 18:32
Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 18:32
Good onya mate ya have to have a laugh
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Reply By: DIO - Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 19:56
Saturday, Oct 10, 2009 at 19:56
Do Australian waterways a BIG favour and use Carp.
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