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Probably right Shaver. EO had another one recently but unfortunately for him the wording was exactly the same on every forum. Think you might have spotted that one also?

It's now a common way of pushing products on the web. Someone posing as an 'average' Joe gets on with an apparently innocent question about a product. This is usually followed a little later by another spruiker claiming he had used the product and found it to be very good - with all the usual riders and padding such as 'can't talk for anyone else but have had mine on a Cruiser for 2 years and get 10% better performance blah blah blah'. Has to sound innocent and real.

Hard to pick them in some cases but invariably they are posts from names you don't see regularly and they won't come back after the product has been slammed and say 'thanks I'll steer clear'.

Bottom line is - if claims haven't been independently tested it is invariably nonsense, and DON"T rely one a few 'feedback' comments about any product or service. Common (well not uncommon I should say) practice in the hospitality/tourism industry (OS especially) for competitors to post adverse comments about another hotel or tour, while also talking up their own under the guise of being a very satisfied customer.

The web is full of rubbish (as well as good material), just gotta work hard at weeding the chaff from the hay.

I think before he just went under the screen name of "Bill" & not "Box Hill Bill". Must have a liking for the name !

There is also a written article at the moment on "caradvice.com.au" in regard to anyone thinking of buying any of these fuel saving deviices. None of them work !

Hi Guys are you smoking something or what. I have a 2004 turbo diesel land cruiser. I am towing a 20 foot Evernew caravan, just been to Tassi and I met a guy who also has a turbo diesel who said that he was getting an extra 50 KM per tank towing a 24foot van.

I am about to travel around oz and if I can get an extra 50 ks per tank it is well worth the cost.

If you have any experience with the product would appreciate you comment???????

Cynical perhaps but even the above post fits the standard Bill.

What raised the suspicion is that many of the push-ads actually start off with similar wording to that which you used at top: 'heard a lot recently about...'. Apologies if you are genuine, guess we'll have to take your word for it. That said a google would have told you what you wanted to know (not to say you shouldn't ask here also of course).

As far as improvements to performance go I'd take most of what people claim with a grain of salt. Comparing 'pre' and 'post' fuel use is nonsense UNLESS you have driven under exactly the same conditions. Practically this is impossible - and even small changes in topography, temp, wind, driving style, traffic, vehicle weights, tyre pressures, fuel brand etc can deliver a noticeable % change. The only valid test would be to run it on a dyno under a variety of test conditions. As for comments like 'feels like it has more power' etc - let you be the judge of how objective that is.

Hi Bazooka

I have just retired after working as Operation manger (more than 10 years) for a small company in Bayswater Vic, you possibly have heard of them - they make the best portable work and camp lights you can buy.

Not experienced with diesels and was just asking a question!

Cheers

I would suggest as they claim to give 20% better fuel consumption you install 5 in line and then you will never ever have to buy fuel again.

Make sense????? As much as wasting your money on one.

I still can't understand how putting an obstruction (which it really is) in your intake system can improve performance - regardless of its shape.

Hi time

You appear to know a far bit about how a turbo diesel works, we have until this car owned several different models of petrel powered land cruisers.

The cruiser pulls great but there are times with the van on that a little more would help. Value for money do I fit the exhaust or the chip for best bang for my buck.

Regards

Bill

Fit a bigger exhaust Cheaper and slightly more benefit than a chip.

There was one fitted to my RB30 GQ patrol when I bought it a few years ago.
I didnt like the way it was installed...removed it and fuel economy IMPROVED a bit straight away.
IMO....it makes an excellent frisbie.....!!

Cheers Keith

I fitted 2 HiClones to my 3l GU and had the same result as imBill2, reduced turbo lag and smoother idle and running.


dead set truth, I did also notice an improvement in fuel economy approx 1l/100km which went away when I put the chip and 3" exhaust on.

Snoopy, I took that out of the intake of my 100 Series and it goes a lot better

So have I and it doesnt make a scrap of difference.

but you did respond...... LOL LOL

yeah i know,couldnt help meselfs hehe......

I asked the fuel injector bloke and he said he put one in and did not improve his fuel economy on his Diesel Toyota. This comes from experts.
Better off buying a larger mandrel made exhaust.
Cheers god luck.